"Shake and Bake" refers to the nickname given to the state of California, which it is not only named for, but it is the state flower for :) California is often referred to as "Shake and Bake, USA WELL DUH!...lol, FANNA WHO IS Hysterical laughing at herself for FORGETTING THIS FACT about Callie! See I am afraid to TRY any Poppy for breadseed because what if someone sends one they THINK is safe and it isn't? JASMINE, I ACCIDENTLY TYPED THE WRONG NUMBER! All is WELL it WAS Margos I was working on and since I believe I meanted the gift she gave me it was clear it was just a slip of the finger or brainwave or something along those lines..... Lisa I stayed up last night til 5:00 am or would that be stayed up this morning til? Oh well, which ever that is what I did. It is just a matter of me bring ODC and can't stop until I feel HAPPY with the results....lol!!! WOW you all are sending in some REALLY REALLY good stuff!!! Wendy, thanks for my GIFT...I will be on a CHOCOLATE high tonight, haha! That was so sweet of you to think of me, thanks again. I am actaully taking a breather at this minute to eat supper then I will get back to the seeds. :) Fran I will go ahead and post #11 thread!

Suburbanmd, Our first W4842 was for sure defective. It did not vibrate, shake or rattle, but... It had the rubber boot shredding into thousands of small pieces, the soap tray had to be fixed, the machine kept saying the door was open during loads and the Hygiene Info would come on, even after during a Sanitize or Clean Machine cycle! Now, the second one (the one Miele gave us as a warranty replacment...the one I got rid of within a week of), I am now thinking maybe it had a drawer/pedestal issue and was unbalanced. I do not know though, since the Installer were sent by Miele Headquarters themeselves and the Installers returned the next day, and they said they "fixed" the machine. They were very young, and seemed like "hung over" frat guys after a party night!! I was really surprised and not happy, that this was the company Miele sent themselves! I guess I will never know, since I got rid of the machine and went to Electrolux for about 2-3 weeks. No real issues with the Electrolux (they were SO quiet & clothes were very clean, but I did not like the dryer very much and build materials were poor and the doors were questionable). I'm now on load 6 with my current W4842...and it is PERFECT! Also the new T9802 Electric Dryer is AMAZING. I had Miele program it like my old T9800. I had them set the Normal cycle a little warmer and the Cooling Down period to Extended. Now even using Normal, nothing is left damp, and the clothes are left SO soft, fluffy and 100% wrinkle free. The Extended Cooling Down Program is a must. The new dryer is even quieter than the T9800 (and that one was pretty quiet). The build materials on both the W4842 and T9802 cannot be compared to any other machine in the world. The doors, glass and plastics feel like an old (old, in a good way :) Mercedes-Benz. Teutonic, over-built and bank vault solid. SO happy. Wow, what a roller coaster month of laundry and financial stress and aggravation. In the end, Miele proved best for me. Now our entire house is Miele, and knowing that Miele Service comes out (with parts with them) is a big peace of mind. Danke Schön Miele!!! :) P.S. Just did a load of my son's clothes at 6am (while everyone else was sleeping...Normal, Very Warm, Max Spin). I am in the room next to the laundry room & my 3 year old son's room is directly above the laundry room. I did not even know the machine entered the Max Spin cycle and was complete, until I walked in the laundry room. Miele made the machine Electrolux/Samsung quiet and balanced. Amazing actually!!

What do you people cook in your ovens? Bowling balls? Heh heh. You must be pulling out 30lb turkeys daily if the weight of your pans is that huge of a concern. I only cook turkeys once a year (for which my family thanks me) and only on the big green egg, so we decided on a range with two ovens and a warming cabinet because of the space we gained as well as the look. Our ovens have drawers below them so they aren't on the floor and when I do use them I am able to safely open and check the food without being in danger of burning my nose. We had wall ovens in the old house and hated them, as well as the gas cook top, which IMO is just a horrific waste of space. Now in our new house we have that same crappy set up and will be yanking it out as soon as possible. But we will still only cook turkeys rarely. As a pure ergonomics issue though, it is always better to lift up verses lift from chest level so for me....I just don't get why people put the stove up on the wall. Much like the drawer microwave...it just feels unsafe. And ummm they are ugly. Ok IMO but really, I hate big electronics and plastic in the middle of a wall. (I feel the same way about big screen tvs).

I'm planning on doing this in the next few months. Have had the sink picked out for a couple of years! Wanted to put two faucets in the wall, but husband is adamantly against it. So I guess I will make do with them mounted in the countertop. I see some nice ones online. The sink is about 30" wide, and has no faucet holes. Cabinet is 54", and there is no room for anything larger. I think we can do with about a foot of counter space each on either side. Better than one small sink/faucet. Frankly, I think it will be a huge improvement, even for resale. Even undermount oval sinks would take up about 20" each, leaving only 14" for the space between, and the spaces on either side. I think that would look ridiculous. :)