Hello again, First, Alison & Nancy, pls. excuse me, I seem to have accidentally deleted the paragraphs I'd written addressing your comments (yikes, but it was late, I was tired & I've been sick for a couple of days (home sick 1 day, an intense cold flew thru my body in a couple of days)). Oops, I digress. I had thanked you both for your comments on the trademarked issues, that you both confirmed my feelings that the prohibition was in propagating &/or profiting. I hadn't propped them & was just sharing (tho' I had wished to have them sold at the Plant Sales Table as usual). Brilliant the suggestion to simply not specify which Ag in particular, simple but just never occurred to me (duh). Hey Purple, I remember your mention of the lost X stitch files. Do you know that GW has a Quilting Forum? Might your Mom like to check that out? Dorky me forgot to suggest pls. to search for my work there. Same handle, just search Pirate_Girl, IâÂÂve got some Quilts posted there along w/ sometime comments abt othersâ works there. IâÂÂm a pretty serious Quilter, âÂÂrecovering textile designerâÂÂ, long story also explained in my Quilt Blog. Suppose its OK to digress my own thread, huh? Or have OT conversation should I say, w/ Purple. Hiya Toni, Thx for lovely words, I DO love my quilts, thereâÂÂs no denying ⦠donâÂÂtâ think we ever had this conversation, thoâ rings familiar you mentioning suggesting I market myself. Sure IâÂÂd love to, except I work full time & also do the Work, so got no time left for marketing. Thoâ these days w/ Etsy (not there yet, but I aspire to sometime). IâÂÂm aiming more for something called Spoonflower, a company which allows a person to pay to have custom designs printed on yardage of fabrics. IâÂÂve been holding onto a couple of dozens original designs IâÂÂve wanted to see on fabric for YEARS. So, thatâÂÂs what IâÂÂm closer to doing. IâÂÂm certainly open to ideas, suggestions, & sooooo very much appreciate you two's encouragement & acknowledgement! Meyer Mike, I need to backup & say special Thanks, lovely compliment you gave earlier, I flew right by, didnâÂÂt mean to. & I really see the white stem now. Maybe I should just share the trio amongst those here by swap, no issue whatsoever >)

Definitely a euphorbia but I'm not at all sure it's E. lathyrus. Typically listed as an annual (sometime biennial), lathyrus will not winter over in PA as an evergreen. I'd have serious doubts about it wintering over at all. But it could be a hybrid euphorb like 'Excalibur'. That is fully perennial as well as evergreen and is hardy to zone 5. There are also a number of other perennial euphorbias that have that distinctive white midrib, but I'd question their hardiness in zone 6.

For the expense of riven rock you would be better off since you are in California getting pads from Mexicans. 2 good plants are Opuntis caccanapa "ellisiana" and Opuntia ficus indica. I know nurseries in Cali and Arizona have decent indica in pots for way cheaper than riven rock. If you hold out you will get some from me. I have some good pads I will be sending your way. Ellisana, indica, lemon spreader, this one pictured, stricta spineless and normal, and Florida devil tounge humifusa.

Somewhere in the world there might be a vegetation eating frog or toad but I can find nothing about one. What may well be happening is that frog/toad is grabbing an insect on those buds and knocking them off. If your friend wishes to get rid of that frog/toad she needs to trap it and find an environment it can live in to release it. someplace else.