How cold is too cold for bare root bagged roses?...
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Can bare root trees wait a month in cold weather?
Comments (14)"If the ground isn't frozen below the snow, I think Drew is probably right," I had to quote that! :) You mention the dead of winter, and I agree, but spring is 4 weeks away, and the gentlemen mentions picking them up in 3 weeks. So it will be one week away from spring. I planted mine in zone 6A on March 7th 2013, last frost was April 29th, and it was a very hard frost, my tropicals got caught outside and I had to remove all the foliage, none of it survived. My cacti though were fine! Trees were coming out of dormancy on March 7th, they had flower buds on them. All the buds fell off, they went back into dormancy, They were coming from California btw (and not 200 miles away, 3000 miles away). They all grew like crazy last summer. They came back out of dormancy fine. If Oldryder is in zone 6 or higher, he would be planting them March 13th, a week after I planted mine last year. Not the dead of winter but the start of spring. Plant them. Call you extention office and ask, they will tell you to plant them, but call anyway. Just to give you an idea how well mine did, I cut them to knee height. One only threw a low bud just above the rootstock. I had to re-train it as a new central leader. By the end of the first year that new central leader was over 4 feet tall. It's not even one year in the ground yet. Oh I summer pruned the new leader twice and formed scaffolds, that yes, reach 4 feet tall....See MoreHow Long can you keep bare root/dormant roses
Comments (12)thanks for all the support...I guess I'm not going to return the plants, my back is quickly improving...so a little at a time and I'll be ok... I do have a few additional questions though from the comments above "ghost" growth just want to make sure I"m not taking something off that would otherwise be ok...what I'm seeing is these little whitish colored shoots (for lack of a more technical name) now have leaves at the ends? is this a premature stem or just some weird mutant growth? Second question...do the roses need to be inside while soaking? I have several rain filled buckets out back (that I would not be able to move in) that I could put them in? But they'd be outside... I also do have several big tub with rope handles, they are very large, and could probably fit in a few of those...but do I just soak the roots or the whole plant? any pros or cons to this practice of soaking the whole thing?...See MoreOwn Root Tea Roses after a cold zone6 winter
Comments (13)What I've seen about Tea wood is based on not-cold but other damage. Often I think that Hybrid Teas are wimps. If there's a canker on one side of a stem, here, at least, that canker will gird the entire stem by midsummer and (poof) that stem is lost as is those roots' potential to replace it with a cane that will last through the next winter. Teas, OTOH, can tolerate canker around a bud union, even if its ugly, so long as it's on woody wood, half a canes' phloem and xylem is enough to support outer growth. The same thing happens when a certain riding lawnmower (not driven by me) hooks a mature cane and breaks it but not completely. Again, the father out growth can survive with about half of the xylem and phloem going to it. If you see black, if you see a magenta halo that halo is indicative of active fungal activity. Cutting just below that isn't enough. You need to go down two or three inches below active fungi. Remember that fungal hyphae extend below where you can see the problem. I worry that we are going to get a PM outbreak similar to the one we had after the post Easter freeze. When the growth normally would be mature and resistant to our PM strains.....I fear that our just maturing growth will be vulnerable (but that means that some of our roses will have survived.)...See MoreOK...cold is bad...but how cold is too cold?
Comments (24)Michelle: my question is why don't we want to use plastic, and by doing so, why can't it touch the plants and leaves? You can use plastic if that's all you have, and lots of people use clear plastic wrapped around tomato cages, etc. for its greenhouse-like effects. It's just that there are better insulators than plastic. The not touching the leaves thing is probably for two reasons: 1) It's the air trapped under the plastic that insulates the plants, and where the plants touch the plastic, there is no insulation, and, since the plastic itself is a poor insulator, it will essentially conduct the cold directly onto plant parts in contact. With things like actual frost blankets, etc., there are also tiny air pockets in the cloth itself that provide insulation. Plastic doesn't have that. Think about how well you can feel hot and cold through plastic gloves vs through cloth gloves. 2) Moisture condenses easily on plastic and stays there, and parts of plants that get wet during a frost can be more damaged than parts of plants that stay dry. Frost cover, etc. tends to be breathable and wicks moisture so doesn't present this problem as badly. I don't think it's a big deal if a few bits and pieces here and there come in contact with plastic, such as would happen if you wrapped a tomato cage in plastic. But sometimes people misunderstand wrapping and do it too tightly....See MoreFrozeBudd_z3/4
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