Hey Mike, What CJ said about Hausermann's. I feel for you. Periodically, I just *have* to have a specific orchid and zoom in on finding it. Nothing's on my list right now, so I just zoomed in (obsessed) on 'Joe.' Here's what's turned up. Phal Orchid World was registered in 1984, and the cultivar Orchid World 'Joe' was awarded in 1989. Rfraser's thread that you linked was from 2008, so chances of finding this particular cultivar may be slim. On the other hand, it's been wildly popular, so maybe loads of hobbyists still have plants. In that thread, Richard said, "As to Joe, the fragrance starts out kind of spicy and ends up candy like in a sort of bubble-gummy way." If it's any consolation - when I've been at Orchids Limited, different people have sniffed the same flower and have described the scent in way different ways. Options: 1. Contact Discover Orchids, although they may not be in business anymore. It's difficult to tell from their site: http://www.discoverorchids.com/. They list Orchid World 'Joe,' but their photo is from a 1999 blooming. 2. Post a message here for Richard Fraser - evidently, you can't email him from his member page: Where did he get his plant, has it had a keiki in the meantime & maybe he'd be willing to part with it, etc.? 3. Contact Peter Lin @ Big Leaf Orchids, who's had this one in the past. http://www.bigleaforchids.com/ If he doesn't have 'Joe,' perhaps he can suggest another cultivar - 'Carmela' or 'Bonnie Vasquez,' or another Phal that smells the same, at least to him. 4. Also, post on his forum, which has several threads about Orchid World. Unfortunately, the most recent thread seems to be from 2010. 5. Contact Olympic Orchids, http://shop.olympicorchids.ihost.net. They have an orchid finder service. 6. Post on other orchid forums re: sources, extra plants, keikis, etc. For example, in 2012 this OP had a large, healthy-looking plant, and another person in the same thread had 2 keikis: http://www.rv-orchidworks.com/orchidtalk/phalaenopsis-oncidium-intergenerics-bloom/33670-phalaenopsis-orchid-world-joe.html 7. Start a new thread here to ask if others have 'Joe' or other cultivars that smell the same to them. 8. Look for a different Orchid World cultivar - a different one might have the same scent... *but* might be as difficult to find as 'Joe.' Here's a comment on cultivar names from Ray Barkalow of First Rays Orchids, but the year of the post doesn't seem to be given. The OP was asking about the parents of Phal. Orchid World 'Carmela.' 'Bonnie Vasquez' is another cultivar. From Ray: Actually Joanna, 'Carmela' and 'Joe' could be from the very same parents. Basically, once a cross is bloomed and named, such as Orchid World, each and every plant from the cross of Malibu Imp and Deventeriana - even if it's the reciprocal cross, Deventeriana x Malibu Imp - is Orchid World. From among the different Orchid Worlds out there, some are likely to have outstanding characteristics, so the owner has the right to attach a cultivar name to the plant, in these cases, 'Joe' and 'Carmela.' They could have been from the very same seed capsule or from a totally different set of parents. Anyone can attach a cultivar name to any plant they own that does not already have one. There is no registration involved as there is for grex names like "Orchid World." If I got a particularly nice Orchid World, I could print the tag to say Phalaenopsis Orchid World 'First Rays', but if I had 'Joe' it would always be 'Joe'. Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! http://www.mombu.com/orchids/orchids-gardens/t-question-about-parents-10853995.html Hopefully, something in here will be helpful. Best, WhiteCat8 Here is a link that might be useful: Orchid finder, Olympic Orchids

Kathleen, you're right, it was on HGTV! But I swear I saw a thread discussing the topic on the Home Decorating forum shortly after that. But we were in the middle of moving and I was delirious...so maybe I dreamed the whole thing!!! :) THANKS!

Sharon, the search feature on GW isn't the best. Have your tried Googling it? Just go to google and use site:ths.gardenweb.com as one of your search terms. Good luck!

I second the idea of talking to the local appliance store and seeing if they'll put you in touch with their movers/installers. You might get, "Well we won't touch it officially, but if you want to talk to the delivery guys about doing it on the side, that's between you and them." Reminds me of when I wanted the RO hooked up to my built-in fridge. I called a bunch of stores but nobody would do it. I had a guy out from one of those same stores adjusting the fridge doors and he gave me the same story until I waved $40 under his nose. Took him less than 10 minutes; I bet he was one happy camper on the way out but I was happy to have it finally done.