You are apparently asking (us) if you have “no idea” where the rose leaves came from.

I think you do have an idea where they came from (whence they arose).

If I knew I wouldn’t be asking? I’m not sure how a rose that I did not plant would somehow appear? Its not in the same place as the old rose and almost 3 feet away from the new. Doesn’t seem Ike it is related to either of those roses. Again, I’m new to the rose world and just trying to learn. Only way to learn is by asking questions.

Known as B, I can’t help unfortunately, but I bet you will get some very experienced folks to chime in shortly.

Your don’t think there could be any relationship between this new growth and the old rose or this new growth and the new rose?

It could be a sucker from the original rootstock. I’m not sure where you’re located, but in CA ( and many other places) quite a few roses are budded onto Dr. Huey. His roots grow long and spread wide. If even a tiny bit of the rootstock was left underground, it can eventually grow again. I’ve been trying to get rid of a Dr. Huey rootstock for well over a year, and it keeps coming back. We had removed a rose that was budded onto Dr. Huey, and I thought we got it all, apparently not. It pops up several feet away from where the original rose was removed. Hope this helps:) Lisa

Thank you very much! So based on your experience I now know it’s possible for the new leaves to be regrowth from the old even if it’s further away. I guess I left some roots behind. I hate to disrupt the soil too much with the newly planted rose. I am also curious too see what would bloom. The new is much prettier than the old. Despite all my efforts the old only bloomed once in the spring and that was it. I read where some climbing roses only bloom once a season.

I dug up a rose and replanted with a new one. Today I noticed a small rose coming up. I am sure that it's from the one I dug up.

I bet that is what you have too.

Your original climber was probably rootstock to begin with.

Known As B - just a note that if it's rootstock from Dr. Huey, it won't look like the rose that was previously there - it will be a Dr. Huey rose cane (the red blooms people are describing above). Reason is that many roses are grafted on to a more vigorous "rootstock" to promote growth & flowering - as Lisa said, Dr. Huey is one of the most common rootstocks. So, what you saw of the old rose you removed was the variety above the graft, and the rootstock left behind under the graft is Dr. Huey (or another rootstock). Some roses are "own root" which means that they aren't grafted, but what you're describing sounds like it could be growth from a rootstock. Just ignore all this if you're already familiar with it, but thought I would explain in case it's new to you.

Re not wanting to disrupt the soil, you can always just dig down a little bit around the cane & cut it off, just know that it might keep coming back..... Good luck!

I’m so thankful for everyone’s input. All of the advice and information you’ve shared makes complete sense! And thank you for being so polite

I will carefully start digging around tomorrow in an attempt to remove as much as possible, but hopefully all. Someone asked if I had dug it up and the answer is yes, a little over a month ago. What I replaced it with is a Golden Showers climbing. I do remember that the old rose got black spot ALL the time and just didn’t look healthy! All of the multiple treatments I did consisted of Sevin, Bayers Advanced Disease controller and the lime/sulfur were ineffective and it eventually made my other roses sick. I kept diseased foliage cleaned up, kept water restricted to the base of rose etc. It was a 5yr battle that I was happy to lose because I was tired of trying to bring it back. Sounds like Dr Huey is a pain in the toosh! As I continue to grow my garden I’m sure I’ll come across other scenarios that Google and Paul Zimmerman YouTube videos won’t answer so it’s great knowing there is such a nice group of “Rose friends” I can come to!

Bridgette-Nashville, Tn

Bridgette, please stick around.

I’m new to gardening as well but live in Murfreesboro.

subk3 lives in Nashville I believe.

Lilyfinch just left the area after a few years.

Its a great to have posters in the area because garden advice differs greatly by location.

I always wonder why people do not like Dr. Huey. I think it is a very pretty rambler and back in the day was very popular. I wouldn't want it growing RIGHT next to another rose though as it gets huge.

I think it's pretty, as well. The problem is it's a notorious BSer completely without redemption after is first flush in many areas. Mmmm12 just removed one in Denver that it was glorious, but Bs isn't a problem there. I probably would have left it or moved it elsewhere because her pictures were astounding. (I'm not sure we had a definite ID on hers..... just a once-blooming red). I'm growing some hoping to learn grafting.

A couple of years ago the Julia Child I had in our previous home died. I left it in the ground, planning to dig it out in the spring. Imagine my surprise when I went outside one morning and saw several of these growing off the rootstock. I knew that many roses used Dr. Huey, but this was quite a shock. I just left it as a memorial to whomever lives there now.

@robw1963.... I think I saw Julia child on sale via the JP website. I debated on it but went with Women’s Celebration and the John F Kennedy instead. Your pic is beautiful! Now I’m wondering if I need to just buy another one! lol

Bridgette G, the picture I posted is actually Dr. Huey which stayed alive after my Julia Child rose passed (the Julia Child had been grafted on the Dr. Huey rootstock). Here is the Julia Child rose (I didn't take this picture, but found it on the web). It's a beautiful rose. The one I got from JP showed some serious signs of stress, but right now it's looking better.