Contractor Issues - need common sense advice
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Comments (10)I think you're probably going to have to find someone else to finish up anyway. But for both of you I think you should give it one last shot to straighten it out. I agree, letting him know your rights is one thing, but actually suing is an absolutely last resort. You did actually get much of the work you paid for, and it would cost many thousands to pursue the rest. And time. If he has done anything criminal, that's different. I'd sit him down and have as brutally honest a conversation as possible with him. Give him a "golden hour" to tell you everything -- EVERYTHING he needs to tell you. And then you'll figure out what to do. Tell him you just want this solved. You just want the work done. No blame, no emotion, lecturing, no yelling -- you need to HEAR it all. Take out the bid and go line by line. Ask what work he REALLY can do, and what he can't, what's finished, what needs to be done, what's paid for, what's not, what's ordered, what's at his workshop, etc. Tools. If he took any pieces of your house away, like doors or radiators etc., for repair you want to know where they are and get slips. Stuff like that. Then, for what he can do, make a realistic, bite-size schedule for as much as you've paid for. Whatever he hasn't done beyond that, I'd say get someone new. It may become obvious during this conversation what is really going on, if you listen and don't hammer him. Is he overextended? Does he have a substance abuse problem? Did he spend your money on another project? If he needs a small amount of money for materials, I might give him that, but not much more. I understand it's hard out there, and people are stuck. I really feel for them. But that doesn't mean this guy is your responsibility to save. He's got enough of your money. If you absolutely feel the necessity to, if your conscience or your religion compels it, dole out money for one job at a time. Counter. Tile. Bookcase. It also worries me a little that if he disappears, what you might discover months from now. Which is probably part of the reason other contractors don't like to take on half-finished projects. Contractor B finishes up shoddy contractor A's work, and there are problems. Contractor B can't prove he didn't do that particular work, or if he saw it, should have seen the problem and didn't re-do it. I think this is perhaps the hardest issue out there. If you trust your GC, every decision flows from there. But you can do all your research in choosing the best GC, do everything right, and still, it can go wrong. Don't blame yourself. There's really nothing you can write into a contract that can prevent someone from doing this. (I'm not a lawyer, that's just common sense.) Some state Bar Associations or attorney general's offices have some limited free or low cost legal advice (like from young lawyers on certain nights of the week who will tell you what laws/cases apply to your case, but not research it or advise you), or can tell you where to get it. I think this is fairly well-trodden territory in contracts. It might be worth giving them a call. Good luck!...See Morebacksplash common sense rules?
Comments (27)Thank you again to all contributors- can only imagine how many wasted dollars and visual mistakes you're preventing by taking time to write. Hopefully, this thread comes up in google weeks or months from now when someone does a BS search, so non-GW members can benefit from this advice too. It's really tough to find common-sense advice online about backsplashes - I see tons of product sales spiels or superficial noise (choose a color that's pleasing to you, consider all the wonderful options out there, blah blah blah".) Basically useless. Nothing as valuable as what I'm reading here. Rococogurl - I'm afraid I definitely broke your rule! Lots of time spent on cabs, counters, upfront. Thanks for a particularly in-depth contribution. Deee:I am dealing with exactly the challenge you mention. This BS can be seen by entire open LR/DR layout. Hard enough coordinating a BS to kitchen elements, let alone most of house. Next house, no open layouts!...See MoreContractor woes, advice needed
Comments (27)Thanks, everyone. We're not at the point where we are considering cutting him out. We selected our contractor because he is also a structural engineer and he brings a special expertise to this job, which includes a complicated pool build and an outdoor lounge perched on a steep sloped lot. There have already been a few significant overruns - our structural costs for the pool and the lounge went way up due to issues with the soil and depth of bedrock, and it has been stressful for both us and the contractor. After having interviewed all the top shelf contractors in our area, he was the only one we wanted to work with. Also, we are renting another home, so it would be costly for us to lose time to locate another contractor, wait for him to provide a bid, and bring him in and get him up to speed. Also, as an update: the cabinets in the other home are MDF -- he got confirmation from the homeowners of the other house and the cabinet maker that built them. There was confusion on our part because we were given a door sample that was solid wood, and the plans for that house indicated they were Alder. We were never told until just yesterday that those cabinets were MDF, so we relied on the sample given to us and the plans which (incorrectly) reflected they were wood. They must have some sort of veneer on them because they are stained. We are going over to the other house this weekend to look at them. We have not given him any money towards the cabinets yet. And we are free to change the style of the cabinets at this point if we want to. I'm waiting to see the quality of the cabs before making a decision. Sorry I don't have time to respond individually -- running out to a dental appt. But appreciative of the advice and support. Thank you all!...See MoreNeed Advice Please on how to handle a pool build issue
Comments (1)Susie, Sorry to hear that you're going through this. One thing you will learn very quickly working with these contractors. No one, absolutely, no one cares about your project more than you do. No one knows the details of your plan more than you do. You are the expert of your pool. I have a similar length pool at 7' deep and I was also concerned about the grade. I thought the pool would be 7' at the end of the pool, but it was 7' in the middle of the deep end which caused the slope to start soon and quickly. Pool is done now and I can barely touch in the middle of the pool (I'm 5'7"). My kids are older, so it's not that big of a deal to me, but there is very little space for younger kids to stand up and play. The one nice thing about the grade is that it slopes back up at the very end of the pool to the point I can get traction to stand on the end wall in the deep end if that makes sense. They probably gave you a grade that was convenient for their bobcat excavator with little regard for your meticulously laid out plans. There is plain physics involved with a 7' depth. 6' would be much more gradual. However, if it's not built to plan and you can easily demonstrate that, I would push back or consider what it would look like at a 6' depth. You may consult with another trusted pool builder, contractor, or even the building department (many are former contractors) for recommendations on how to approach it. Stay involved and ask questions at every phase. There are so many mistakes I caught by just asking questions. There are other mistakes I didn't catch, because I'm not a professional pool builder and didn't think to ask. As they say, all their work looks great from their house. Regards, Mike...See Morerobin0919
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