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I would rethink the idea of any Wolf oven with a blue interior. Google Wolf blue chipping and you will find a 10 year history of the problem with at least two class action lawsuits. If asked about it Wolf says they never heard of it or it was a problem fixed a long time ago. On the appliance forum here, some have been through 3 ovens but the lawsuits involve more. The M was developed to “fix” the problem but it still occurs. You can replace just the bottom on it now.

The Wolf M oven is in my opinion going backward from their other ovens. You no longer have a choice of a slower fan speed as they took away the convection bake mode. It is the most usable convection mode for me. They have also created hot spots on the sides by placing the fans in the corner. These are screen shots from their video saying how even it bakes. They had a good thing with the dual fans in back.

When looking at how much room you have in the oven, look at rack size for usable space. I have an Electrolux oven which I love but it has had trouble with the blue enamel and computer boards. I am looking at Bosch to replace it. Monogram does have the fan reverse every so often to avoid hot spots but not sure how it bakes. It would be great if you could try it out.

Thanks so much! Super helpful.

I'd be curious to hear from anyone who can speak to how evenly their Bosch 800 bakes vs. GE monogram

I have a GE Advantium and the GE Monogram oven. Had no problems Had them for six years now. I got this combination although I don't need two ovens - just for resale!! value when I sell the home!!! No experience with Bosch.

I use the Advantium mostly as a microwave. I used it once to broil/bake fish - It was awesome - cooked very fast. However had to wait a long time after that for it to cool down so it can be used as a microwave again.

The GE Monogram oven I use it and it's fine (I don't bake much - not a gourmet cook!) One thing that I noticed was when I tried to use one of the oven trays to broil fish - it was a tight squeeze to fit it in on the top rack - so broiled it on the middle rack - it took longer to broil obviously.

@bchang33 - What did you end up buying? Do you like what you bought?

I ended up choosing a GE Monogram oven and speed oven. Unfortunately, I haven't finished construction yet, so I can't tell you how I like it. Before I made my decision though, I tried out my friend's oven, which bakes really evenly. I thought I would be happy with it. I also tried her speed oven. Ultimately, I'm not sure how often I'll be using the speed oven functionality because there's a huge learning curve, but I can use it as just a microwave or as a second oven on the occasions when I need a second oven, so I'm hoping I'll like it. I'll know more by the end of the year!

@bchangs33 That is the same configuration I have in my current home!! and same usage too!!

I'm now in the market for an oven in my second home and with all the chipping issues worried about any oven that I buy!!

Do either one of you have the “direct air” in your Monogram? Can you make a choice between it and regular convection?

Not sure what you mean by direct air - but I have Bake and Convection Bake as two options

@Bryna Chang Just wondering how you like the GE Monogram and Speed Oven now that it's been almost a year. I'm thinking about the same combo! Thank you.

@wekick My oven has bake (no convection), convection 1 rack, and convection multiple rack options. So you can choose whether you want to bake with convection or not, and I guess the oven optimizes for 1 rack vs. multiple if you choose convection bake. The convection bake works really well--even with multiple racks, even with more finicky things, like macarons.

@Amy Cantu We've been in our house for 6 mo now and I really like the GE Monogram oven. I haven't actually used the speed oven functionality of the speed oven. Just the microwave. And even then, we just use the add 30 sec option. I need to sit down with the manual and experiment with it. Unfortunately, using the speed oven is not as simple as just turning it on. It's pretty complex. I remember when I tried the speed oven at my friend's house it was really hard, and I thought I'd need to dedicate some serious experimentation to getting it to work for me, and doubted that I would ever bother using it as an oven except for Thanksgiving, which hasn't happened yet. My motivation to learn how to use it has been even less than I expected, so I'm sorry to say I can't report back. I also haven't tried using the oven probe functionality for the oven (haven't cooked a roast yet). Need to find the oven probe along with the speed oven manual! But I have done a ton of baking and roasting of vegetables and have been pleased. We were living in a rental house with a viking range and the GE monogram oven is 1000x better than whatever model of viking oven came with the range in the rental. Much more even. I've done two cakes side by side and they came out beautifully without the need to rotate. With a sheet of cookies I notice that sometimes a corner might brown a little quicker than another corner, but not so much that I really need to worry about rotating the pan halfway through. Broiler also works great--I've been making a lot of toast to go with steak tartare and an entire pan filled with toast toast 100% evenly under the broiler--hooray!

@Bryna Chang We have the same setup as you Monogram oven with Advantium on top. We use it mostly as a microwave too!!!

I finally (after 6 years) used it as an oven (broil feature) - All you need to do is change out the glass tray to the metal one (anyway do read the manual just to be sure - since I used last year!!!)

Can I ask you how you used the broil in the oven - The tray of salmon that needed to be broiled was such a tight fit that it was touching the broil element that it started smoking!! So out of necessity I used the Advantium oven feature and it was beautiful - cooked it FAST too.

One thing I did notice is that after using it as an oven - I couldn't use it as a microwave right away - because the manual said I had to wait for it to cool down and that took FOREVER!

.....but I like it - no issues so far. Now we are building a second home and are going with Bosch double oven to avoid any chipping issues that most other ovens have these days (Bosch too but it doesn't have as many complaints) - GE people said had uneven temperature issues now and also for a second home the Monogram is way more expensive than the Wolfe which we considered too!! Gave up on Wolfe because of the chipping issues!!!

@paddykk I don't use the top rack for broiling. I use the second one down, and then I put it on high broil (right knob). Yes, one of the reasons I haven't braved the speed oven functionality is the need for it to cool down before microwaving. So often we are cooking something and reheating leftovers as well, so having to wait wouldn't work too well for us.

@Bryna Chang Yes that's what I did - use the second one down for broil. Just thought maybe the top rack was installed wrong or something in ours!!

Glad this was years ago - now buying an oven for the second home has become a nightmare scary proposition with all the chipping issues!! I settled on a Bosch double oven- for now!! - (the least problematic oven brand so far as per the comments here) - keeping fingers crossed. Have not bought it yet due to the COVID-19 shelter-in-place.

I wish Wolfe owned up to the problem and fixed the chipping issue (that was my first choise with our sub-zero refrigerator choice - I don't care for an enameled blue interior really or even an open element!

Have a great long weekend!

@Bryna Chang Do you mind sharing which model of Monogram you received? I am about to undergo a forced kitchen remodel due to a pipe burst and am essentially ordered to upgrade my 20+ year old wall oven (a Jenn-Air which still worked fine, but it's bigger than most ovens now and the analog display is hard to read sometimes, but it seems silly to make my new cabinets to an older size---plus it really looks dated).

I really loved the ZET1 model with the knobs but after deciding it was my model, I learned GE had discontinued it for the touch screen ones. :( While they are pretty, I find touch screens and wet kitchen hands not compatible.

Any information is appreciated!

I have the ZET1PHSS Monogram 30" Built In Single Oven and the ZCS2202JSS Monogram 30" Built In 30" Advantium 240 speed oven

I love the oven. Haven't used the speed oven functionality still (!!!)--only the microwave functionality.

Good luck with your project