Kitchen update estimate
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Need help estimating price for kitchen & second floor bath remodel
Comments (15):) Yes, the exterior is ugly. I'll grant you that. We suffered from previous owners (circa late 1970s is my guess) and their desire to do asbestos tiles siding over the original. While I'd love to tear it off and put up new siding, there's not much reason to other than curb appeal, and we'd rather put our money into the interior and living spaces. We do have plans to paint, replace gutters, and we are replacing attic windows. Eventually we will replace all windows. Attic was replaced in 2010. Sure, the exterior isn't flashy and lovely and definitely won't win awards, but it is what is and it's what we've got. Maybe historic home isn't the best term, but it would be the terminology used in our town to describe our neighborhood and our house, for better or for worse. It's really what's inside in the interior that we like, along with the location and overall features of the home. Our home has all original oak floors, quarter sawn oak pocket doors and trim and 5 panel doors all original to the house, a huge chapel bench in the foyer that is built in, and none of it has been painted. Sure, it's not a grand historical home, but those are rare in general, and there's probably only 3 or 4 like that in our town. What is rare is the fact that we have all original woodwork, plaster walls in good condition, a few original decorative leaded glass windows, and a gorgeous brand new finished master suite. We have a 5 bedroom 3 bath house with a finished basement family room and playroom, plus a patio. In our town, that is a very rare find. But with all of that, comes the crappy original kitchen layout and back porch/bathroom hack. What we discovered when we looked at homes 6 years ago is that there were FAR worse. Mold, scary DIY electrical, refrigerators that couldn't be opened, and absolutely terrible upkeep and maintenance. It was bad...really bad. So when we found our house, trust me when I say this, it was a total steal and we loved it. Except the kitchen. :) Trust me, I get the rebuild idea. I get it. I'm sure many of you see this and read this and think, "Money pit! Run away!!!" :) But not all of us can or want to tear down houses or replace absolutely everything. If we actually tore down our house and rebuilt it, it would cost more than 2-3x the current value to rebuild it with the same quality and materials and finishes. I appreciate all the warnings and suggestions to consider that, but it just isn't going to happen....See MoreUpdate (of estimate/contractor woes)
Comments (10)Do you design a garden plan for someone who wants to do the work themselves or get other bids on the install from other mow and blow ''landscape companies'' that do not offer design work? Do you include the detailed sprinkler install and drip irrigation in your scope of work for them to bid out to other firms? Do you create detailed hardscape plans from excavation to permits to blueprints for the pergola? For someone else to do? How about the needed soil amending that the customer doesn't realize needs to occur? Do you routinely spell that out in your specifications? What about planting depth for the trees, or shrubs? Do you feel the need to call that out so that some ignorant slob can bid the job lower than you? How about alternate plant choices should the first choice be unavailable? With written explanations of the drawbacks of one choice over the other? What about the finishing touches of mulching and maintenence tips for the homeowner? Would you offer a bid on such a detailed scope of work that some other ''garden expert'' developed, but that you disagreed with the feasability of the plan to succeed? Like creating a bog garden in a hell strip? Or installing a full English garden when their budget is 1K? Would that change if the customer engaged a well known LA to develop the master plan, and then wanted to hire you to implement the physical labor on the job? Would the fact that some other design professional took responsibility for the plan leave you not making an alternate suggestion about tree choice when you realize the original choice will mature at too tall of a height to be placed that close to the power lines? What if all of the local nurseries were sold out of the Forest Pansy redbud that was to be THE feature tree that anchors the small side yard patio area? How would you approach a substitution? How would the mow and blow guys who don't know jack about real gardening approach that same situation? It wouldn't be from the same position of skill and knowledge, for sure! How would you need to be compensated for all of that design work that you wouldn't get the contract on? Would you even take on such a project with no guarantee of compensation for the design work? Just, ''If we like your ideas, we might pick you to do the work that you're planning.'' Or do you get a design retainer before you do any work? How healthy would that design fee be if you knew you were designing for someone who might not even be able to tell which end of a bare root rose went intothe dirt and probably wouldn't even read the written specs for the job and only give a cursory look at the diagrams. You need to think about all of that. You're not familiar with the home remodeling process, so translate that world to one that you are experienced in navigating. Think about it from the other side of that fence. And translate your all over the map approach to your most trying customer that you've had. What customer are you being here?...See MorePlease Help me Estimate Costs for Kitchen & Bath Renovations
Comments (7)Material+Time+Labor Only you can know what you need and how much it will cost, how much time it will take you and what is your time worth, what is your overhead, and what your profit margin is. If you cannot figure out a price, this job is not for you... Because doing a job based on someone's price you will lose your pants and most likely you will end up screwing your customer, seen that happen too many times. Some would come in, and tell the customer they will beat anyone's price to get a foot in the door, and when they start the job they will run short and when that happens, they will start cut corners, ask for more money and if they don't get it, they will abandon the job and when that happens, consumer is screwed because they cannot find anyone else to finish a job started by someone else. So don't put yourself in this situation. Good luck...See MoreEstimate cost for kitchen remodel/bump out in Ottawa
Comments (19)I'm not in Ottawa, but I'm at least in Canada. I can't picture exactly where you would want the bump out, but my guess is that 50-70K would not be nearly enough. Replacing a kitchen by itself usually costs that much, just in cabinets, counters, appliances, electrical, plumbing, drywall work, etc. Doing structural work to the outside of the house means excavating for a new foundation extension, framing and rebuilding the outside of a house, tying into the roof (and this can be complicated), and then inside redoing flooring, drywall, etc. It's a big project and I wouldn't want to take it on without a 100K budget if I was also redoing the kitchen at the same time. Our insurer here on the west coast budgets new/replacement construction at $200/sq foot. The age of the house is also an issue; in an older house, as soon as you pull a permit for renovations, you are obliged to bring everything up to current codes. This can often add a lot of unforseen expenses. You say that you are young; I'm guessing this is your first time buying a home? It's not that you need turn-key, but the most important things to factor into your decision are the "bones" of the house. Layout, number of rooms, location of plumbing, etc, and "building envelope" (ie the outside of the house), as well as the condition of the windows, insulation, roof etc are the things to pay attention to. Use your budget to do the cosmetic things: paint, updating kitchen counters, hardware, appliances, etc. Save yourself a good contingency fund for the things you won't find out are problems until you're already living there. :) Good luck!...See Moretartanmeup
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