Spider Mites ID / advice on preventative measures for other plants
lynn327
5 years ago
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Brand new ivy plant and spider mites.... (I just can't win)
Comments (5)Ivy-like plants that are less prone to spider mites. Hmmm. Well, Senecio macroglossus (cape ivy) looks very much like English ivy (Hedera helix), and isn't particularly attractive to mites, but it has a whole set of other problems that don't make it significantly easier, and it's not all that widely available. Hedera canariensis (Algerian ivy) looks like a very big version of H. helix. It's not as attractive to mites, but you still have to watch carefully for them (I recently lost my plant to mites because I didn't notice quickly enough what was going on.): once they get going, the population explodes like it would for H. helix. I'm not hugely familiar with Ficus pumila (creeping fig), but I've seen some varieties of it that had a similarly-sized leaf: the effect from a distance is kinda the same. There's also a (smaller-leaved) version with white around the leaf edges, but I think that may be the only variegation option. I'm under the impression that they're fairly easy plants, and while mites are possible, they should be more easily controlled. I have not yet tested this by trying to grow it personally. Plectranthus nummularius (Swedish ivy) trails, though it doesn't much resemble English ivy otherwise. It's good about bugs: I've had one for a while that has never had any problems, even when other plants in the vicinity did. Pilea nummularifolia is another trailer that looks even less like Hedera helix than Plectranthus nummularius does. Nice plant, though. I'm actually getting to be pretty fond of mine. Don't really know on the bug situation, but again, no problems for mine so far. Cissus rhombifolia (grape ivy, oakleaf ivy) vines and trails. Doesn't look much like English ivy, and it is supposed to have some issues with mites, but it exists, and I've had mine over a year and it's been very civilized. Zebrina pendula (wandering Jew) and Tradescantia pallida (purple heart) are pretty pest-free in my experience, though they get leggy quickly and also bear no resemblance whatsoever to English ivy except for trailing. Epipremnum aureum (pothos) is almost too obvious to be worth mentioning. Ditto Philodendron hederaceum (heart-leaf philodendron) and the other climbing Philodendrons. Philodendron hederaceum in particular is underrated, in my opinion, because it will tolerate a lot of abuse, and so the plants everybody always sees are plants that have been through a lot of abuse, which makes them not look so great. A well-grown P. hederaceum is a thing of beauty. All three are decent if not spectacular when it comes to bugs. Hoya carnosa, again, doesn't look like English ivy, and some people have trouble with them, but mine have been great so far, and are very easy-maintenance. Spider mites aren't a problem with Hoya spp. so much, but mealybugs can be huge, so it's important to pick your plant out very carefully. But mealybugs aside, you could do worse. This wasn't an exhaustive list, but, you know, we could be here all day. I hope there's something in there that's useful to you....See MorePreventing Spider Mites?
Comments (5)throw the old potting media into the compost bin ... NOT away ... its always a good idea to start fresh with potting media.. especially on production crops .. and what you put in the pot is just as important.. regarding media ... BTW.. why werent all these things in the ground.. if you have space for a pot.. etc... i have gardened for 35 years.. and i still have trouble with pots.. you are kinda starting with the hard way .... last summers heat and drought and may cold ..... were not great for tomato ... especially a potted one ... over the years.. i gave up on watermelon ... jsut too big.. and too yuck ... not to mention.. its growing season to ripe.. may not be long enough for you .. its a plant that just isnt worth it.. and all that space.. that you could have used for other stuff ... and frankly ... IT might have been the whole problem.. once it took over the whole yard ... giving a few pests.. time to hide.. until the population exploded ... you cant really prevent the fluid suckers .... aphids.. mites.. etc .. you notice them early.. and react ... chipmonk .. rat trap with peanut butter.. under a large upsidedown pot.. tipped on a rock to allow access .. if you cant get rid of it.. you are not allowed to complain... even better if you can find its hole.. and cover that ... good luck ken...See MoreSpider mites on new plants - should I toss them?
Comments (15)at a 1.48 each.. its probably not worth the gas back to return them ... back in the day .. i learned more winging it.. like you did ... than i ever did from a book ... no WWW to chicken little me into action ... lol ... they are perennials ... there is no reason they should not come back ... its also hail storm season .. and if you read forums.. you will find many peeps moaning that mother nature did the same as you did ... it might not be a bad idea.. to isolate them somewhere ... treat them ... and plant in fall .. as a newb.. lets be clear... just about everywhere.. but maybe the PNW ... july/august is not a great time to be planting ... yes it can be done ... but dont be surprised if they struggle or fail .. it took me about 20 years in the garden to realize... just because i bought it.. doesnt mean its the right planting season ... and if you dont have 20 to 100 pots for fall planting.. you arent trying very hard... lol ... moving and planting perennials... is done in spring and fall .. for the EASIEST time ... as your experience grows ... you can wing it more... mostly because if you lose them. you shrug and say oh well ... live and learn ... try not to panic in the garden.. it kinda defeats the whole purpose of meditating in the garden .... ken...See MoreSpiders or spider mites?
Comments (12)Oh whew...I am so relieved to read that nobody thinks they are spider mite webs. Whew, whew!! Is there some definitive way to determine mite webs vs spider webs? Thanks TJ. You are right. And I haven't sprayed a thing, good or bad, in the last 15 years with the mentality of "come what may" but this yard has been trying. I have never seen so many good and bad bugs in my life...and in the last month resorted to BT to kill the hornworms that are decimating my tomatoes and since I'm spraying anyway, I bought the neem which I'd read up on here. It appeared to be pretty innocuous overall, so that I used along one fence where most of my succulents live in light shade and dappled sun--that's the area where both of these photos were taken. None of it was sprayed on my edible or flowering plants, as I read that neem can damage blossoms... The only thing I have consistently used except when I lived in SF was snail bait and they seem to be having quite the blast anyway this year. Jean, we sure do! I can't confirm my neighbor ID'd what she saw correctly but upon hearing that and about two minutes before I ordered neem, lol, I did google it and Japanese Beetles were spotted in the Sacramento area, right above me, per the CA Dept of Ag. I only read one article but that was close enough for me! Ken, my spiders are year round, I'm afraid. January has much less than the other months but there is no month where I can't find spiders crawling on my plants or webbing here and there. Come spring, there's virtually no plant I can't find a spider on or at least evidence of some spider having been on it. That said, I still find it really bizarre that at this yard, for the first time ever in my gardening life, I have not seen ONE aphid. Spiders are not predators of aphids, are they? I've never seen a ladybug here either..probably because there are no aphids. Not complaining but I find it so bizarre! Thanks again, folks!...See Morestewartsjon
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