New HVAC for major remodel in California pricing & system questions
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Choosing which HVAC system...Carrier, Goodman
Comments (7)You have to keep in mind that many of the components used among the many brands of HVAC units are identical and similar. A brand is just that. Tranes break, Carriers break, Goodmans break... they all break. Installation can make or break any installation. I still do think some brands make better products than others, however. Sometimes there are little things that put one brand ahead of the other--design, engineering, parts availability, efficiency, capacity, etc... I like Trane personally, but I'm not too impressed with their upper-end line of equipment for heat pumps and air conditioners. Carrier has a good, wide product line. You have to consider what you want. Goodman is a basic system. Other brands can provide more features. Of the 93% 2-stage Carrier and the 96% variable-speed Goodman, I'd choose the latter for the variable-speed blower. Put the comparable Carrier up against it, I'd choose the Carrier with the Infinity control and Performance outdoor unit....See MoreNew HVAC System - Cost reasonable?
Comments (11)2ea 5 ton 16 SEER Systems in the Goodman Brand with duct systems in Tulsa from www.morrisheatandair.com would have cost no more than $30,000 for equivalent products. Check out these brochures and find a Goodman Installer today on Angieslist. New 98% AFUE Furnace with true variable speed motor. http://www.goodmanmfg.com/DesktopModules/GoodmanProducts/ProductFiles/32CB-GMVM97.pdf New Evaporator with TXV http://www.goodmanmfg.com/Portals/0/pdf/CBs/CB-GEVC.pdf New 18 SEER AC http://www.goodmanmfg.com/Portals/0/pdf/CBs/CB-DSXC18.pdf New Comfortnet Communicating Thermostat http://www.goodmanmfg.com/Portals/0/pdf/CBs/CB-CTK03.pdf Goodman Brand Air Cleaner http://www.goodmanmfg.com/Portals/0/pdf/CBs/CB-GIAQ.pdf Even if you are not in a Goodman Area, Daikin should be available in the same specs for that much, I would consider a Ductless Multi Split System with 12 indoor heads and up to 12 tons of cooling capacity, however they are not gas driven furnaces they are heatpumps. 3ea Daikin 4head systems would cost no more than $45,000. They operate at 19 SEER and usually qualify for a bunch of rebates. Here is the brochure: http://www.daikinac.com/content/assets/DOC/Product%20Brochures/CB-MXS.pdf Daikin and Goodman are the largest Manufacturers in the United States. Good Luck John Morris (918) 734-0040 www.morrisheatandair.com...See MoreNeed Help for Replacement HVAC System
Comments (38)Thanks, @mike_home and @tigerdunes. I followed up on your advise and asked AS dealer to quote me the 60K platinum furnace (originally, he had quoted an 80K platinum one). No change in price! So I can get either one, but they will charge me the same $$! The other Trane dealer that I have short listed is quoting me 60K XV80 furnace, with the configuration @tigerdunes suggested in the previous post. However, I did notice that the Evap Coils they have quoted are different ones: 4TXCB006DS3 vs. 4TXFH036CZ3. The Trane dealer told me that these are two different types of coils (Box Coil vs. Slab Coil, respectively). With the second one, the 60K XC80 furnace (*UD2C060ACV3) will give 13.00 / 16.00 rating, qualifying for tax credit. So my final (hopefully!) questions are: If there is no cost difference b/w 60K and 80K furnace, what are the negatives for opting to go for a bigger furnace (to get the tax credit)? Is it worth going to XC80 furnace (60K or 80K) to get the tax credit as long as the cost difference is less than $300)? Would I get any benefit of the "communication capability" of the furnace or to get any benefit, I also need to upgrade my outside unit)? Which of the above two coils (DS3 vs CZ3) is better - design / functionally / performance wise? May be I am nit-picking here, but lack of knowledge/expertise is making it difficult to figure out a "right" combination. The dealers here are not very helpful. They just want to use the same components that they have used in the past. I sincerely appreciate everyone's help here. You guys have been God-send to help me navigate through this minefield of HVAC land!! Somehow, a simple Thank You does not seem adequate. But unless I can think of a better way to express myself, that's all I have. So, Thank you all, esp. @mike_home and @tigerdunes....See MoreQuote for new HVAC System, reasonable?
Comments (5)No problems if installed correctly. This is really a misnomer because it applies to ANY equipment. That is the problem that can't be ignored. I am an opponent of the mini split for the simple reason they are more or less single room air conditioners. In other words you are going to need space on a wall in every room to mount the cooling/ heating head. (more equipment) The mini splits could all go down at the same time... this depends on the design of the system. They make multi head capable condensers... meaning multiple cooling heating heads connect to one condenser. If the condenser goes down, there is no cooling in any head. If you put in multiple heads and multiple condensers for those heads then that is even more equipment to maintain. The only way yours are still functioning is that they have been maintained. Maintenance is not free and if you don't know how to do it, you are more likely to damage the system. Look at the facts you'll see I am right. If you save anything up front in a mini split you WILL pay for it at some point in the future. More equipment = more cost. No way around that and repairs will be much more complex. Watch the video below for in depth look at how much fun you might have......See Morefoothillviews
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