New HVAC System - Cost reasonable?
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Liz Owens
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Comments (9)I'll focus on the HVAC side since I don't know much about direct vent hot water tanks. The quote provides enough information about what they plan to do which gives me a good feeling about this installer. However since you are providing the equipment, the quote is high in my opinion. Sounds like they are still quoting the job as if they provided it and marked it up. I think it can come down at least $5k. Who is providing high voltage power to these units, or is this an additional cost paid to another contractor? Also to clarify, will there be multiple returns on the first floor as well or one central return in the living room? I would clarify with the dealer about the ductwork system. By the quote it sounds like it is all hard metal, with no flex duct even in the attic where it is common. If this is the case, great. This could account for why the quote is on the higher end. I would strongly consider upgrading to the 15 SEER condensers if the unit price increase is not more than a couple hundred per unit. They should be quieter and are overall nicer units in my opinion even if they have the same cabinet. Another upgrade to look into is a high efficiency media filter for each unit. They typically get replaced every 6 months or in some cases up to a year, and they provide better filtration of the air and hence protection of the equipment. These may add a couple hundred per unit installation....See MoreQuote for new HVAC System, reasonable?
Comments (5)No problems if installed correctly. This is really a misnomer because it applies to ANY equipment. That is the problem that can't be ignored. I am an opponent of the mini split for the simple reason they are more or less single room air conditioners. In other words you are going to need space on a wall in every room to mount the cooling/ heating head. (more equipment) The mini splits could all go down at the same time... this depends on the design of the system. They make multi head capable condensers... meaning multiple cooling heating heads connect to one condenser. If the condenser goes down, there is no cooling in any head. If you put in multiple heads and multiple condensers for those heads then that is even more equipment to maintain. The only way yours are still functioning is that they have been maintained. Maintenance is not free and if you don't know how to do it, you are more likely to damage the system. Look at the facts you'll see I am right. If you save anything up front in a mini split you WILL pay for it at some point in the future. More equipment = more cost. No way around that and repairs will be much more complex. Watch the video below for in depth look at how much fun you might have......See MoreIs my HVAC high limit switch working or not? Two HVAC pros said it is.
Comments (25)WHAT IS A HIGH LIMIT SWITCH? https://www.newcentralairconditioner.com/ The high limit switch in your gas furnace is a small part with two very important jobs. This switch plays a role in the normal operation of your furnace. Turning the fan motor on and off is the high limit switch’s main job. This is the role it plays in every cycle of your furnace’s normal operation. But that’s not the only thing that the high limit switch does. It’s also safety device that helps prevent your furnace from overheating. The high limit switch consists of a long temperature-sensing probe attached to a metal mounting plate. From the mounting plate, the switch is wired to the blower fan motor and to the gas valve. The switch is generally located just past the heat exchanger. This is so that it can detect the temperature of the supply air. In other words, the air that’s about to be blown into your home....See MoreSingle HVAC zoned or two HVACs without zoned system
Comments (27)The biggest problem with HVAC zone systems is knowing when to choose it as a solution and when not to. Some HVAC companies it's about "sell, sell, sell" whether or not it works... there's more money in "sell, sell, sell" --- when it's only about money? So does the comment above mean I do it for free? No. If you think that you are reading things that aren't there. New construction? best to choose separate systems 9 times out of 10. In order for a zone system to work, you have to know what you are doing. Most HVAC companies staff (the techs they send you) are 20-30 year olds. How much practical experience could they possible have? It's best for HVAC zone systems to be an elegant solution. A HVAC zone system is a tool in the tool bag. Not all homes are suitable for zone systems. Some homes there is no other way, and in some cases complications to those problems will make an HVAC zone system design possibly more prone to problems. You have a problem now, do you want more problems. These decisions among others are decided "in person" --- so considering that becareful what information you decide upon from the internet. Just because it's here doesn't necessarily mean it's true. That said: Depending on equipment level chosen, how many different floors you have in your structure, how much room you have available... will all be factors that make you decide one way or another. From there it's in your best interest to pick a contractor that is skilled: especially when it comes to HVAC zone systems. (there's a lot of garbage out there.) (click to enlarge if necessary) I service the Katy, Texas area....See More
mike_home
8 years agosk_dolcevita
8 years agolast modified: 8 years agotigerdunes
8 years agomike_home
8 years ago
PROwww.morrisheatandair.com
8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago2ea 5 ton 16 SEER Systems in the Goodman Brand with duct systems in Tulsa from www.morrisheatandair.com would have cost no more than $30,000 for equivalent products. Check out these brochures and find a Goodman Installer today on Angieslist.
New 98% AFUE Furnace with true variable speed motor.
http://www.goodmanmfg.com/DesktopModules/GoodmanProducts/ProductFiles/32CB-GMVM97.pdf
New Evaporator with TXV
http://www.goodmanmfg.com/Portals/0/pdf/CBs/CB-GEVC.pdf
New 18 SEER AC
http://www.goodmanmfg.com/Portals/0/pdf/CBs/CB-DSXC18.pdf
New Comfortnet Communicating Thermostat
http://www.goodmanmfg.com/Portals/0/pdf/CBs/CB-CTK03.pdf
Goodman Brand Air Cleaner
http://www.goodmanmfg.com/Portals/0/pdf/CBs/CB-GIAQ.pdf
Even if you are not in a Goodman Area, Daikin should be available in the same specs for that much, I would consider a Ductless Multi Split System with 12 indoor heads and up to 12 tons of cooling capacity, however they are not gas driven furnaces they are heatpumps. 3ea Daikin 4head systems would cost no more than $45,000. They operate at 19 SEER and usually qualify for a bunch of rebates. Here is the brochure:
http://www.daikinac.com/content/assets/DOC/Product%20Brochures/CB-MXS.pdf
Daikin and Goodman are the largest Manufacturers in the United States.
Good Luck
John Morris
(918) 734-0040
mike_home
8 years agolast modified: 8 years agotigerdunes
8 years ago- PRO
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8 years agoI didnt know if she had natural gas or not. Critical minds amaze me to this day. Multi Splits are great and solve a lot of problems. Question? Why is she being quoted for new duct systems? Probably because it is either too leaky or not sized correctly, which 5 ton application duct systems usually arent. In Tulsa, The Majority Special Olympians Contractors usually cant size a 2 ton duct system correctly without undersizing everything. So yeah, for that price, ductless is an option. I dont recommend it, I just throw options out there. As far as advertising is concerned, I just want people to recognize where the information is coming from. If you want to learn a little about air conditioning, my social media is a great place to browse.
mike_home
8 years ago
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