Advice on proper fridge depth size?
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Comments (15)"Since I only have one, small tree, I'll try to keep an eye out and manually take care of any insects (am I kidding myself that I can do this?)" Not at all. One small tree would be easy to bag the fruits on, easy to clean up after, easy to pick off and destroy egg layed fruits before the bugs multiply for next year and easy to fill with enough traps to make a difference. I got by for between 5-10 years organically getting enough off my espaliers before the bugs found their way from my neighbors' neglected trees which became more neglected as the owners aged. My main apple tree is too big to bag and in the future most of my trees will be that size, plus I've never had that much get up and go to go out and bag. I've only bagged to get a couple of plums and then borers killed that tree. I see you may have the same issues where no matter how good you clean up your bugs your neighbor is breeding more. It probably does grow fruit and they fall early as something eats on it and then they complete their life cycle in the ground. Other people's neglected "organic" trees are a real problem for residential areas. With a small tree you could probably get by with an early spray or two until you could bag. Then you would only have disease to worry about. You can also use traps to tell you when it's time to spray so you're only spraying when the bugs are around. It's fairly likely you can't find Imidan, but possible you can it depends on your area and how hard you look. I'm seeing very good results with Spectracide Once and Done on curculio and I think Malathion will work on my apple maggot, both are supposed to work well on codling moth. Codling moth, apple maggot and curculio are my only constant problems so that's all I worry about. Imidan is pretty serious but so are some naturals like nicotine water. I would gladly use Imidan instead of the Once and Done because it does work and pyrethroids are hard on beneficials. You would have to read the labels to see what crops the different chemicals are approved for, don't be afraid to peel back the label before you buy. There are also some newer organic pesticide(s) you can look into. But it's been a long time since I was trying to grow organic apples so I'm not that familiar with them and what they work on. Here is a link that might be useful: bagging...See MoreCounter depth fridge size and cutout help!
Comments (17)Sorry, typo! I meant the 2060, a freestanding right-door opening fridge, which is what I actually linked. I will link it again here. @tinyone. Can you provide measurements around the cut out and the distance in inches from the interior of the cutout to the wall? Without that information it's hard to truly help. @sjhockey - I agree that a right opening door is not ideal. But it offers the best chance of opening enough so the fridge actually can be used. Unless there is enough clearance it can't open left because even a 0-clearance hinge fridge has a handle which will hit the wall and may not fully open. But we can only make "if this" suggestions without the facts/ measurements. Given the facts the OP has posted so far, I don't believe the agent is right. I think I am right. But that could change depending on how far it is from the fridge cutout to the wall on the left and how much space there is between the ovens and the cut out on the right. And if there's enough space for the door to swing open in the aisle between the fridge wall and the island. @tiny -- if you are doing other work in the house, a competent GC could make this all go away very easily. Depending -- again -- on the current location of the electrical outlet in the fridge cut out and the location of the water line it might need an electrician and a plumber in addition to a carpenter who is good enough to do fine finish work and alter an existing cabinet well enough to reuse pieces as needed. If a GC has a good crew, that's the way to go. The percentage paid to him will be worth it as he will be responsible. But I wouldn't let anyone touch anything until you ID a fridge that can function in the space somehow and after you've identified what will need to be altered more or less. Then I'd meet with the GC with the spec sheets in front of you to discuss his suggestions on how to go forward and what it will cost. Only after that would I make a purchase. OTOH, if the cabinet store that furnished the cabinets is known, might be worth a call to them. But then no one person is responsible. I also would be careful about where I purchase the fridge. It weighs 400 pounds. It needs to go from the truck to the door of the house closest to the kitchen. When my fridge was delivered it was to the bottom of my driveway -- the contractor had to bring it up. Don't assume anything. Ask a ton of questions. I'd want people there with the right equipment and in the right numbers to bring it into without ruining the floors, nicking the door, denting it or at worst -- dropping it. I'd find out in advance if the fridge can be tilted horizontally (some cannot). Unfortunately, this is not a Mom's fridge from Sears situation. Here is a link that might be useful: Liebherr 2060...See Moreremodeling our whole kitchen....is our new fridge too big depth wise?
Comments (18)By comparing measurements on the plan, it looks as if you have ap 47" aisle, counter-to-counter, between the range wall and the island. Maybe 34" between island, and fridge door handles, which appear to be elbow height. That's pretty tight, but just workable with a side-by-side or French door fridge, IMO, as long as someone isn't trying to get past while you have the fridge doors open. You can bring the cabinets out to 30", but that does not leave room for the corner susan, unless you give up the cabinet to the right of the sink. And the fridge still sticks out 8.75". Can you move the island a few inches, and/or recess the fridge (as long as it's not on an exterior wall) as fori and weedmeister suggested? Can you get shallower handles? Can the stub wall be cut back to 30"? Here's an option where I've cut back the stub wall and moved the fridge against it, thinking that might keep it from looking as if it sticks out all by itself. Also moved the base cabs out to 30", and uppers out to 15". I moved the island down and toward the sink a few inches, and you still appear to have 48" on that side. I rearranged the prep sink in the island, so that it's not back-to-back with the range. If that's not an exterior wall, you still could gain a couple of inches more by recessing the fridge. Any chance this would work?...See MoreCalling all budget minded, small kitchen owners-counter depth fridge!
Comments (8)Samsung is at the top of our list. Their 4 door, Frenchdoor fridge is a winner with the wife. Our short term issue is the height. It is taller than any other fridge of similar size that we have looked at. I would need to trim several inches off the cabinet box. Or just wait till we remodel. Probably next year. I was going to go with Counter Depth and suck up having to pay a premium. However after looking at the measurements I see that the Samsung is a bit shallower than some of the other offerings. If I remove the drywall behind the fridge I can fit a full size fridge. The fridge maybe pushed back against the stud. But that is just a small bit of the back for the fridge. There will be plenty of room for airflow. One of the things I do not like about the Samsung we are looking at is that the fridge drawers do not have humidity control. I know some people have real issues with the Samsung and will not consider one based on the comments made online. However every fridge we have looked at has a similar series of complaints. My feeling is you either roll the dice with something that is on the market today. Or you wait and hope the next models released are better. I am not sure there is a safe choice these days. Well maybe a SubZero and the like if you are willing to spend the money. I loved and miss our SZ. Unfortunately there is not room for one in the condo....See MoreJen C
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