Do I center the table and sacrifice the space between table and island
Sandra Durante
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Comments (11)Perhaps off topic. Ours is a two-person kitchen most days and is still under construction; most finishing is not done so no other people would want to eat there, except during entertaining. We've found that the table nook in kitchen near dining room is not being used as anticipated--it's not being used for meals, but then, we're still getting used to the nook on path to dining room--a real change from past habit. DH eats breakfast at peninsula (functions like an island) most of the time and I breakfast in dining room. Suppers are at dining table; lunches move many places but not the nook. We've put a rectangular antique drop-leaf table into nook, which we can open up on each side when necessary, but the folded-down surface is like a sofa table. One thing I've noticed is that I use that surface to off-load accumulate stuff from peninsula, a good thing for life on the peninsula where I'm cooking regularly. I also lift one of the sides of the table surface when I do recipe reading, since my shelves with cookbook collection are right there. And houseplants! and flower arrangements! They are on nook table but seen from adjacent lobby. Right now there are 6 amaryllis pots in various stages of growth on nook table. Glad to have them away from the cooking area where they would otherwise be in the way of kitchen activities. Tomorrow will be the maiden voyage of the new kitchen with a potentially large crowd. We expect historic reenactors to take over the kitchen to make historic punches and flips. I plan to serve the beverages from the nook table in crock pots, bowls, and pitchers; the nook has relatively washable surfaces (including non-carpeted floor), and, better still, it clears the peninsula for pot luck supper items so different cooks can be working on stocking the peninsula of food for buffet supper while others imbibe at table. Nook area is adjacent to dining room and on the route to deeper rooms of the house, so the beverage people won't hang out in the kitchen, a real change from past kitchen, if things work as hoped. Beverage cooks will be able to put out their beverages without disturbance and supper cooks will work separately within the kitchen, I think. Cross my fingers. fyi: Yes, you're probably thinking that I don't cook quite the same things as the typical GW'er and I suppose I don't serve typically either. Tomorrow I'm serving "Yard of Flannel" (something like hot eggnog) from Napoleonic Era which requires hot ale, whipped eggs, spices and brandy, more. I hope to be able to monitor this offering without being in the way, because of this nook setup. More items that will be served: syllabub, another flip, homemade hard cyder, buttterbeere (will it be like the Leaky Cauldron fave?), and a concoction with booze and fruit. Entrees typically include wild game, historic cheeses and breads, puddings, wild rice, Boston baked beans. And of course desserts and more historic booze. Hope the weather cooperates or I will have a lot of stuff for the freezer. Next month we will have a somewhat less eccentric crowd for a pot luck meal and the nook table will probably be used for hors d'ouvers, again keeping the frequenters of the nook table out of the working kitchen. We will serve their buffet meal on the peninsula much as we will tomorrow. Have already tried this serving option a couple times and it seems to work well. I don't regret the nook table setup, but as I said, I may not be using the space as others might....See MoreHow much space needed between table and island?
Comments (6)Rule of thumb is that a dining chair or stool takes up 2 square feet just for the chair. Add another foot either direction for average size knees and elbows. So that's 3 square feet. You need push back space and walking space. That's nine feet just for that aisle. You can obviously compact this by pushing chairs and knees under, but if you look at a lot of those nice magazines they have these huge kitchens that actually have that. Will you be using the slider a lot? Assuming yes, 127" - 35" = 92" for both aisles. If you give the slider side 3.5' = 42" which is enough for someone to get by if there are seated people, that leaves 50" for the other aisle. It'll be mighty tight if big people are seated on both sides. If it's an either or it should be fine. You might think about getting pedestals instead of legs, or even stretcher bars on the legs, so that they don't get tangled easily. I think you can get away with your three inch curve, but I probably would leave it straight so as not to have even a little bit of a pinch point....See MoreAnyone with a farm table in center- no island?
Comments (34)Ifound my kitchen when I moved in very difficult to function in. It is 11 x 12 with a picture window on the rear south wall so no cabinets are there, a driveway door to the side of that on the north, a 1/2 bath door on the left of the rear wall and east of that the basement door. I needed a table and workspace but I didn't want it all togther. I wanted to keep the Eat-in kitchen concept but I desparately needed counter space. We came up with (we are just starting the plans) a breakfast nook on that south wall, to sit 4 and in front of that which would face my working triangle, stove, fridge and sink a 5 foot work a area with 4 large pot drawers below and room above for hanging pots. this way my seating area is separate from working area as my DH is always cluttering up the table with magazines and his mail which I always have to clear before baking or whatever. I decided against the Island for that reason, plus I don't like sitting on bar stool height chairs and I don't like a two-level island, plus I am trying to keep it as "period" as practicable. If my kitchen were large, I would definitely go for the farm table look. Lascema...See MoreAnyone do away with their kitchen table & create an island table combo
Comments (10)Sure, we did this in a house (that we have since sold). I designed it and I loved it. We didn't have room to have the big kitchen we wanted PLUS a standalone table, but did have room to make the island bigger with seating. We also had a separate dining table. We really enjoyed this set up (and didn't use the dining table unless we had extra people visiting). We had no problem with the counter height, though my elderly father did not like it. Also, it was admittedly a huge pain for the period my son was in a high chair because there are no chairs that tall. We still had plenty of room for island storage and didn't need any more kitchen cabinets. In fact, if we wanted to fit a table in the room, we would needed to cut out some cabinets. This allowed us to maximize cabinets. We're currently designing another kitchen for our other condo, and also struggling to fit all of the cabinets I want plus a table. The island seating is the perfect solution. I also really liked sitting at that island while my husband cooked and vice versa. Much more casual and intimate than sitting at a kitchen table. Here's a picture from the mls listing (ignore the wide angle lens :)...See Moreherbflavor
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