I don't have the wonderful experience and advice that others have on this forum, but I would have to go with option C, just because the sink is centered in the window -- being offset would drive me crazy!! Also, I think it looks as though it would be easier to work in (again, take with a grain of salt).

Of the 2, definitely the 2nd one but put the dishwasher on the left of the sink. The recommendation is 15" on right of the range, but I would make that bigger if possible.

I don't really understand what is shown on the floorplan, so it's hard to know what your constraints are. What is going on in the left side of the drawing? Why not extend the kitchen over there? Why plant instead of more cabinets?

you need to explain more. This looks like you dragged and dropped one of everything into a box and called it a layout / floor plan.

just_janni,

Yes I could have explain more. It was coming from the very first thread I discussed.

"Why plant instead of more cabinets?" because we would like to add french doors to the door next to plant in the near future.

On the left side of the drawing is the pantry.

I have created few 3D views of the layout to give you more ideas. Here are the four views of the Option Z. Next thread will be Option C.

From Rear Door

Option C views.

From Front door

I like Option C FAR more than Z. Z is very choppy and the kitchen does not feel or look cohesive.

If we put the sink back to center for Option Z, would you still prefer option C?

C is still superior. Moving a sink a few inches does not solve the choppy problem. You have very little prep space near the range in option Z. The galley style layout of C gives you better prep space options and fewer walkways to navigate.

If we go with Option C, is it perfect except for the DW needing to be on the left side of sink? Any other adjustments needed for Option C? I am surprised you don't see the island from Option Z as the prep area for the cooktop?

Another question about DW, I am trying to understand why most of you want us to move it to the right side. We would need easier access to the drawers on the other side across the galley (Option C) or the island (Option Z). If that is not the case, please explain.

Thanks!

Is this a remodel? I find the fridge location in the middle of the room very awkward---but maybe there's a reason it has to be there? In the upper left, those are pantry cabinets? What is the black rectangle?

I wonder if you posted your existing floorplan, we would be able to help more. I'm assuming you're removing walls which is why there are support columns, but you need more walls in the kitchen.

Usually it's better to have the DW out of the prep zone between sink and fridge, hence recommendation to move it to the left.

Option C is not perfect, just much better than Option Z. I just don't understand why these are the options. I did look at your other thread which didn't clarify much to me.

Prep space is generally sink-adjacent. So the island is not considered your primary prep space for either plan. Moving the DW to the left of the sink means that the area between the sink and the range is not doing double duty: 1. primary prep area and 2. clean-up/DW-open. And since the space in "C" between sink and range is larger, plus the island and fridge face the primary prep space, "C" is a better plan.

ETA I see I cross posted with caligirl5. I would be interested in how either plan interacts with the open concept you've created - I think you had a vaulted ceiling?

This is a remodel. You may want to see the [original thread[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/kitchen-dining-and-living-room-layout-help-dsvw-vd~5354198). It is more detailed.

The black area is the stairs to the basement.

For a better understanding of why certain advice is given for layouts, read the advice and links contained in this thread.

New to Kitchens thread

I like Option c better for an open layout

I like that one too - especially because it takes into account the room shape (aka the vault). I wonder if the island could be turned and "embiggened" some to make room for a prep sink? I removed the pantry to the left of the fridge, but it probably looks more balanced when the pantry is still there =) (or maybe the range should shimmy over to the left also a bit if the pantry is gone....)

Nice layout but it is closing off the access to the deck through the back door. There is only 3 feet of hallway between the staircase and the new wall. It is little cramped. We are planning to change that back door to french doors so that pantry on the right of the door shouldn't be there.

Guess nobody has an answer to this? Bump.

Every option has trade-offs, and it's your home to live in.

For me I wouldn't do a layout with the fridge floating in the middle of an open floorplan. But I think something will have to give to avoid that. Like french doors to the deck (what's going on with the patio on the other side? could that be the primary outdoor space instead)? Or finding a solution for the exterior brick and move some of the doors and/or windows (could you reuse brick? does it have to be a perfect match for the back/side of the house?)

But maybe I'm wrong, and there's another layout someone will think of.

Option C with dishwasher moved to the left side of sink.