I'll be honest, the DW placement would now be a royal pain for me and my family (and would be a reason to remodel!) In our home, the DW is often loaded/unloaded/opened for whatever reason while prepping is going on. With the DW in this location, it means every time the DW needs to be opened you will have to step aside. IF your family is very disciplined to always load & run the DW immediately after dinner (or other meals) and unload it immediately after it finishes running (or at least before any meal prep or cooking takes place), then it may work for you in this location. In our home, with two working parents plus two busy & active children, it just doesn't happen. Invariably, there's cleanup or unloading of the DW going on at the same time as meal prep so the DW is open (or opened/closed/opened/closed/etc.) quite a bit during prep & cooking. If I had to choose b/w the DW in the primary Prep Zone and around the corner, I'd pick around the corner. If you put it at the end of the run, it would not be in the way as much as you think while at the sink and it would be easy to load/unload as well as unload directly into the dish & glasses cabinet above. You also now have all three primary work zones (Prep, Cooking, Cleanup) crammed into one corner of your kitchen. One other concern...if the DW is open while someone is cooking, the cook must be very careful not to back into the open DW door. (The DW door extends approx 27" out from the cabinet when open.) This is a concern primarily b/c when cooking you're working with hot pots/pans. If you back into an open DW door while carrying a hot pot, even a slight loss of balance on your part could result in spilled/sloshed contents. I would try: DW + 9" + 33" corner susan (not recycle) ...round the corner 36" susan (36" on this side) + 9" + 33" sink base + 24" cabinet + 36" recycle susan ...round the corner 36" susan + 1/2" space + 30" range + 1/2" space + 25" cabinet (or whatever will fit) + 3/4" panel + 36" refrigerator + 3/4" panel This gives you 36" of prep space next to the sink as well as another 12" to the left of the range. You also have plenty of space for working & landing to the right of the range. I would use 2 of the recycle bins for recycling and the third for trash, especially as you don't have much trash. One other thing... Trash & recycling work much better inside the Prep Zone and next to the Cooking Zone than across the kitchen. I made the mistake of putting my trash & recycle bins next to my cleanup sink (in the Cleanup Zone) and across a 6' aisle from my Prep & Cooking Zones and it's the biggest regret I have in my kitchen. I find that I generate far more trash, recyclables, & composting, while prepping and cooking than I do while cleaning up and for far longer periods of time. Take what you will of the above comments, just think about how you and your family works & functions b/f finalizing your design. Here is a link that might be useful:

Back! Our home is like a demolition zone. Hides my lack of time for house keeping lol! About the lighting, there is currently no hardwired light in the downstairs hallway. There once was and it's been long gone and the wiring and hole in the ceiling are still there. For the landing I literally just couldn't bear (? right bear?) looking at the heinous light that was there so it is not even an option. In the upstairs there never was a light and it is very dark especially at night. We stumble around in the dark and use the lighting from the bedrooms to see at night. Since the electrician was fixing certain issues we decided to have him just add a line for an upstairs fixture. Our wiring is primarily still knob and tube which he said is in remarkable condition but the PO was a wannabe electrician and there's a lot of crazy crap going on. ie: fire hazards. As far as crystals bouncing weird light, that already happens w/ the leaded glass doors in the downstairs hall. It's actually one of the reasons I love my walls white in there - there are always little rainbows dancing on the walls. The stained glass window casts odd light anyways. The entire center looks clear but it is actually pink, casting a lovely pink glow everywhere. That means it was impossible to pick a color to paint the walls because it always took on the pink cast. Anyhoo - I signed off on the addition of an upstairs light today and I like this one. Not wild about the shiny base but I can fix that and am open to doing that. The upstairs hallway is white walls, white trim & 1 large wall sized mirror in a gold frame and small gold framed scenic lithographs. Could something like this on a larger scale work downstairs? Seems to share some of the similar features like the milk glass/ alabaster shade as some of those suggested. The back wall of the downstairs hallway is the first thing that you see when you open the French doors and walk in the house. I have this very large canvas to go on that wall when the dust settles inside. It takes up almost the entire wall: Or do you think the 1st one would look better downstairs? There is no other artwork or anything else in the entry hall. I love the mix of old and new so I purposely decided to play up the mix by only using black and white photos in gallery frames in the downstairs. I was hoping that may open up my lighting options to being able to be a bit more eclectic if desired. I really need to look at Rejuvenation. I used to get their catalogs. No mntredux, you do not have to paint dark wood. I'm so glad that I always refrained from doing so downstairs. One of my most favorite homes was that of Tricia Foley's NYC Brownstone. All of that dark wood paired w/ her signature white, light and simple décor was breathtaking. Beverly27, Thank you for posting those lights and letting me know where you got the pics. I've spent so much time on the Lowes & HD websites but I just get so overwhelmed w/ all of the choices! You gave me good direction there - thank you! My downstairs hall ceilings are painted black. Instead of trying to make my entry hall seem wider w/ paint, I decided to play up how narrow it is. I absolutely positively love my black ceilings and have for several yrs! I just bought 2 exterior lights there today for our front porch which should soon be done. I was just told that my porch column bases were finished and are ready to be picked up by the contractor.

Jrueter, my fridge and ovens are arranged exactly as your plan. And what a timely question since the ice maker on my 4 ½ yo 36” KitchenAid SxS CD was replaced today. I didn’t pay enough attention to the selection of a refrigerator during my remodel. I was working 55 hrs/week at a start-up at the time and didn’t devote much time to the search. I originally wanted to keep my previous refrigerator… it had a drop-down “deli shelf” that meant drinks could be removed without opening the door. Cavernous interior. But I allowed our GC to talk me into a CD model so it would present a sleek profile with the rest of the kitchen. We were moving walls and I should have opted for a recess into the adjacent room where I could have built bookcases around it. Oh, well, he was a great GC (good friend of DH) and highly recommended the KitchenAid CD refrigerator… had the same one in his own home. I finished my kitchen in 2005 and have hated the fridge ever since. Let me count the ways: *Fridge shelves are necessarily narrow due to the SxS design. Constantly shuffling things around to accommodate any large item. *All interior space is cut into little chunks, especially in the freezer. *One door shelf is actually only 1 3/8” deep and 8” from the floor. Deep knee bend required and the only thing I have found to store there is butter. Not exactly a bad thing, I suppose, if I remember to look there. Very limited possibilities with shelf adjustment since everything has to mesh with the door shelves. *Freezer is 13” wide. And only 9.5” deep on one shelf. I have to think twice about buying frozen anything or storing a load of chicken stock. *Ice maker frequently spits out the last cube onto my wood floor, but I think this is common with all ice-on-the-door styles. *Ice maker died over 4th of July weekend… replaced today for $245. That’s 4.5 years of service prior to its death. I do like the three bins at the bottom of the freezer. They hold a lot and glide well and it’s easy to sort items for finding them later. I see you have 42" devoted to the refrigerator. Maybe you'll avoid the negatives I have experienced. Our kids are grown and only DH and I have to contend with this refrigerator. Otherwise I would have admitted my mistake, returned or sold it and replaced it with something else within a few months of purchase. I didn't give a second thought to the oven door handle matching the fridge's. I chose a side-swing oven door and LOVE that. To address your interest in the French door freezer-on-bottom style �" if you don’t choose ice-on-the-door you will need to pull out a heavy drawer to get to the ice that is toward the back of that drawer. An LG I looked at had another shelf that had to be slid back to access the ice. Way to complicated for an ice cube. I am into the ice all day and don’t want to do that. Guess I am hard to please! But you said you were into the ice all day… think about getting ice from below knee level each time. I am over 60 and this was not a good option for me. I see you have 42" devoted to the refrigerator. Maybe you'll avoid the negatives I have experienced. Since DH plays golf frequently with the GC, I get to rib him about the fridge all the time. Small satisfaction there. Live and learn. Here is a link that might be useful: Ovens adjacent to fridge

Our internet service is back (it was the service provider, not us, who had technical issues after the storms) so I'm playing catchup and working my way backwards from the most recent posts. Amy, They all were rooted....they were branches that were creeping and crawling along on top of the mulch and putting down roots. So, yours should have had roots somewhere. Our dogs and chickens never have bothered tomato plants, so I suspect the plant parts taste bad---deer will eat them though. It sounds like you and your Wild Women of Owasso had fun. That dog needs the biggest most gigantic rawhide bone y'all can find---something the size of a tractor tire perhaps---so she'll have something to chew and maybe, just maybe, then she'll leave your plants alone. I haven't seen a true golden viola, but...California has a native viola that is golden, so it seems to me like someone could have bred a golden viola out of it. Also, there are some pansies that are golden yellow and the violas are close cousins to pansies, so it seems reasonable to think you could have a golden yellow viola. All the yellow violas I've grown have been more of a lemon or pale lemon yellow though. Nancy, We're so rural that I actually am amazed that the WiFi works 99.5% of the time. Typically, if we are forecast to get severe weather, I'm not extremely worried about hail, wind or tornadoes because they are only slim possibilities that might occur. The sure things that will occur if we have a severe thunderstorm? First, the Satellite TV will freeze and then go out. That will last until the storm has moved on. After the TV goes out, it is somewhat likely that the internet will go out too. It doesn't always, but when it does, we always have to wait a day or two to get it back. At some point, the power will flicker off and then come back on. This is only a minor annoyance. Only once in the 19 years we've been here have we lost power for even 4 hours, and that was just last year. Prior to that, our longest power outage had been only 2.5 hours. So, it is briefly annoying, but our local electric co-op guys are awesome and are out there working to fix things the very minute they know something is wrong. This morning, while we were at CostCo, Tim called our internet service provider to check on the outage and they said it was them and not us and that they had fixed it this morning. Sure enough, when we got home, it was working again. Long, long ago--probably 2001 or 2002, Tim figured out that as soon as I had empty plant flats, I'd start more seeds. Still, I think it took him a couple more years to realize that I constantly start more seeds from February through June no matter what. It wasn't as obvious when we had a smaller light shelf with only three shelves that only held 3 flats. Now that we have a larger one that holds a lot more flats, it is a bit more obvious when more plantless flats appear on the shelves that I have started a new round of seed-starting. I have a lot of flats sitting in the garden waiting to be planted. Then, I have a few more flats on the table outside the sunroom---mostly waiting to go into the back garden when I get the front one finished. Then, on the baker's rack in the mudroom, I have 3 or 4 more flats of flower seeds I just started yesterday, also for the back garden. I'll move those outside tomorrow so the flowers can sprout and grow in full sun from day one. I just don't want to move them out until today's rain has ended. Even after I have planted every square inch of space that is safely fenced off from the deer, I'll have succession crops of one sort or another started in flats. It is what I do. When I yank out a crop that is at the end of its productive life, I have small seedlings in flats ready to put into that space, so we have bare space for just hours, not days. Eventually, at some point, it gets too hot for me to care, so I rarely start new seeds in flats after June. Until then, it is just a seed-starting merry-go-round here. Jennifer, I see those strange black boxes sporadically, but they always go away quickly, so I think it is Houzz/GW and not your computer or mine. Coral honeysuckle grows fast in good soil and with good moisture. Mine doesn't grow much in bad drought years, but I planted it in unimproved clay....though I think that years of decomposing mulch should have improved the soil a lot by now. Still, it holds its own even with temperatures well above 100 degrees and no rain for 4-6 weeks straight. I only water it if it wilts, which it seldom does. A year from now, you won't believe how big yours has grown. Jacob, It is very common for our part of our county to get caught in a dry slot (I don't know why) and to have rain falling to our west and east simultaneously and completely missing us. I've learned to live with it. Once, when I met the spouse of a forum member at one of the Spring Flings, he asked which part of this county we lived in. I started to describe it in general terms and he said "Oh, you're in that dry area that the rain always misses" and he could describe our area right down to the road names. Turns out he worked for several years on a custom wheat harvesting crew and had been in our county fairly often. At least while other parts of our county had flooding roadways and power outages on Wednesday, we were fine---albeit dry. When it finally rained here yesterday, the same folks that had heavy rain the day before got heavy rain again....and more flooding, etc. Some of them had small hail on Wednesday and I was relieved that missed us too. We didn't even have enough rain for our part of the county to flood---though some roads a mile or two north of us did flood. It is hard to be patient and wait for the rain to find us, but yesterday it finally found us. Now we're wet and muddy, but at least we didn't have storm damage. Nancy, I wanted asparagus until I had it. I really, really wanted it and knew it needed great soil as it is a long-lived crop, so I waited until I had improved the heck out of the soil for almost 10 years before I planted it. This was especially important because it is at the northern end of a sloping garden, so the runoff all runs from the higher southern end of the garden to the lower northern end. So, now we have it and I am starting to think of it as a garden thug and starting to hate it. It grows like mad. I really think a lot of the irritation is a timing issue. In late winter/early spring when I am busy with wildfires and trying to plant and torn in two by the need to try to find time to do both, there that asparagus is, sprouting and growing like mad daily and demanding that I must drop everything right that minute and harvest it before it gets too tall. Once you harvest it, you must eat it, preserve it, etc. and then the next day there's a whole new crop of spears saying "Harvest me, harvest me....". The other irritant is that once you've harvested for a couple of months, there it sits, blowing around in the wind, flopping over into pathways, providing a natural trellis for bindweed to climb and just taking up space for the rest of the year......so, in some future year, if my asparagus mysteriously disappears, no one should be shocked. The only thing that will kill it is to cut it down to the ground repeatedly over months or sometimes years so it cannot grow and store energy for the next year. If I get tired enough of it, I'll do that. I'd just dig it out, but it has been there a long time and all the roots are grown together in one gigantic mass---it would take a backhoe to dig it out, and I'm not letting a backhoe get near my garden. I keep hoping the voles will eat it, but nope, they only want to eat things that I do not want them to eat. It is too late to plant more edible podded peas. They perform best at cooler temperatures---say when highs are lower than 75. The higher you go above 75 degrees, the more they begin to fade. Mine seem to stay fine as long as the highs are only through the mid-80s, but once we start hitting the 90s (usually that happens here in May), they begin to get powdery mildew and, no matter what you try for the PM, the pea pods are diseased and not fit to eat. So, when PM hits, I harvest all I can, yank out the plants and replace them with something that loves the heat. For years, I tried to fight the PM and keep the peas growing, but the PM hits the pods almost before it hits the foliage, so that was pointless. Often, since the edible podded peas are trellised, I plant icebox melons in their place when I remove them because the icebox melons can climb the trellis and produce marvelously on it. That is a space saver for me. You also could replace your peas when the time comes with a vining form of cucumbers, Armenian cucumbers, southern peas, lima beans (produce better in the heat for me than regular pole beans), yard-long beans, malabar spinach, vining types of squash or gourds or mini-pumpkins. or the vining annual flower of your choice. You can plant a fall crop of peas in late summer for an autumn harvest. Generally you'll get a great harvest of fall peas if you plant them about 10 weeks before the date of your average first frost of autumn. They will produce until your temperatures hit the mid-20s, at which time the plants do not necessarily die---but the cold can make the flowers abort, which sort of wrecks your chance of getting a harvest. Amy, Not to burst your okra bubble, but every single person I know who grows okra thinks that their variety is the absolute best and absolute most special okra in the world---far better than everyone else's. I don't know why. Perhaps because okra, when it is happy, can outcompete, outlast and outproduce everything else in the garden in the heat and the drought conditions. (Although it will do better with regular water.) So, folks who grow cowhorn okra think it is the best and the most special. Folks who grow green velvet think the same thing about that variety. Folks who grow one of the orange or red varieties (they all look red to me, regardless of the fact that at least one of them has orange in its name) think they are far superior to others, etc. People who grow Heavy Hitter are sure it is the best, and folks who grow Stewart's Zeebest think it is the best. I have grown a lot of okra varieties some years in order to compare them to one another, and they all did well enough. For what it is worth, I haven't had sharpshooters in OK. Maybe they are more of a TX thing. Kim, I hope you're feeling better and I hope the first market tomorrow is a big success! Tim is back from Salt Lake City, y'all, and I 'think' that was his last work-related trip for the next few months. The dogs were delirious with job when he walked into the house and wouldn't give him a moment of peace last night. One dog or another had to be almost in his lap or leaning against him for the rest of the evening. Thinking about how many times he has had to travel lately, I asked him 'do any of y'all ever work a week in the office?' (referring to him and the other three assistant chiefs), and he thought about it and said "not really". lol. Even when they are in town, they're constantly at multi-agency meetings, planning sessions, conferences, police academy graduation ceremonies, legislative lobbying sessions, FBI Academy classes, etc. I told him today that "while the men are gone away to play, it is the women (their administrative assistants) who are in the office running the show", and he was forced by his own honesty to agree with me. It is good to have him home. We went out for breakfast today and did our usual CostCo shopping run on Friday instead of Saturday, and we did it in the rain. There was a method to my madness, though, because I figured if we did all the errands and shopping chores today (and we did) in the rain, then tomorrow on a beautiful sunny day with highs in the 80s, we could (and will) go plant shopping. That is called planning ahead! Had the rain stopped, I would have dragged him and the carload full of supplies and groceries to a few favorite nurseries, but the rain didn't stop until we were almost home, so tomorrow I get to go plant shopping with an empty car trunk. I'm not looking for normal stuff tomorrow like run-of-the-mill bedding plants, but more for special accent plants for the containers or for perennials for the hummingbirds. There is not a lot of extra space left to fill in the front garden, except for the area currently overrun with native dewberries, and I'm going to take them out, rototill that soil, rake out all the roots I can and fill up that semi-shady area with flowers. Native dewberries are the bermuda grass of the native fruit world, so they just need to be completely gone from the garden. There is one thing in the dewberries' favor---they are attempting to take over the asparagus bed. It might be interesting to see them slug it out, but two garden thugs like them is simply one to many. Today Damon Lane and NWS-Norman both posted maps showing the path of the Norman tornado the other night.......it traveled alongside and crossed Paula's road (no wonder they were in the storm shelter!), though I couldn't tell from the map how close it came to Ken's and Paula's on its 8-mile journey. Dawn