How to mark slope for paver patio
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Advice needed for sloping paver patio properly
Comments (4)Grade away from a building for a paver patio will be somewhat less of an issue because of drainage afforded by the space between pavers and the base upon which they rest. Your 1/10" per foot grade is probably safe though I used 1/8" per foot because my level gave that indication. Remove all of the top soil and sufficient sub soil to allow for the base. Base requirement is dependent upon your frost zone and the weight to be set atop. I have a minimum of 5" base plus an inch of sand but below a hot tub I have 10" of base. Paver base need not be different only because it's further from your house. Now, here is my advise for new construction - WAIT, maybe 3 years. Why, because the foundation backfill needs time to settle completely. Most likely your existing slab is going to shift (unless footings were poured below) during this time so whatever pavers placed alongside will misalign in a season. Yes, a photo would be helpful, many are posted. And, do you mean 2,000 sq. ft of pavers, not 200? Personally if you're going that large, why save the existing 100 ft of concrete? I'm linking our patio. When I built it in 1998 (1995 home construction) I set stakes and provided a crowned grade from the house and to both edges. Because I needed a retaining wall, I installed French drains below the gravel,to carry away any water and they have worked great. Hope this helps. Good luck. Here is a link that might be useful: Patio...See MoreMax slope for paver patio / need help with design
Comments (5)Your drawing more or less shows drainage running parallel to the house so this would be a flaw in grading that needs to be rectified. The drainage should run away from the house for a few feet, at least, and then run off in a direction that coordinates with the overall lay of land. The grading could direct water straight away from the house or somewhat at a diagonal. It could be a slightly warped surface that begins shedding water straightaway and gradually transitions to a diagonal, skewed toward the direction of overall flow. (A subtly warped surface would appear flat and the warping would not be perceptible to the eye. A possibility might look along these lines... I'm wondering why you would leave the gravel bed between the deck and patio. It seems like it would be better to widen the steps. They/it could be the entire width of the deck, if desired. The wider they are, the more of a direct connection from one space to the other and the better the visual and traffic flow. The step(s) also add the possibility of temporary, impromptu, extra seating facing the patio area. If the gravel space remains it seems to divide the two spaces for no good reason. It would be better to bring the patio all the way to the deck, even if the steps are less than the full deck width. If for some reason you are creating two separate "rooms" to be divided with a screen/wall so there is less interaction between the spaces, then you might leave the gravel bed/potential planting space. Note, what happens with grading is dependent on what the grading is doing in the rest of the yard. We have no information about that so I'm speculating in the above drawing....See MoreAdding drainage for paver patio
Comments (3)If I understand the conditions correctly, you ARE in the process of creating a drainage problem ... a part of the patio that doesn't drain for a lengthy period of time after the storm has finished. As I understand it, the overall downslope of the yard is from back to front ...? The rainwater runoff that leaves your yard is going to be leaving via somewhere along the front property line and into the street ...? (It has to be that or somewhere along the side property lines, which we have no knowledge of.) Immediately at the back of the house, water drains away from the structure toward the back lot line for a short run ...? Somehow, some way, you must direct water toward one or both sides of the house in order that it can continue on toward the front, and then escape from the property. Information about this escape route is what we don't have. You'll need to make sure this route is of sufficient capacity to handle the largest rains you'll get and that it has no obstructions (dams). Dry wells are usually not good solutions as it is difficult to add enough capacity to handle the largest storms. (This could be a massive amount of water.) A drain that runs to lower elevation is a better solution provided that the pipe and catch basin are sized to handle the largest rains AND that a sufficiently lower elevation exists! An even better solution, though sometimes more costly is proper surface grading. Open, downhill sloping grade doesn't clog! If it were to become dammed, by tree litter or something, the obstruction would be visible, obvious and easily correctable. An obstruction in a 100' run of buried pipe would be more difficult to notice and correct. What I'm suggesting is that if you can keep the drainage solution at the surface it will be more reliable and lower maintenance. But "IF" depends a lot on the conditions that exist overall (again, which we can't see and know nothing of. You'd need to convey them in order to get reasonable advice about working with them.) Often overlooked is the flume, which serves essentially the same function as a pipe, but it lies at the surface and is open, as in a trough. In order to carry enough water, it could be deep and narrow, but this might cause safety issues or conflicts with using the yard. Likewise, it can be wide and shallow ... sometimes it does double by being a sidewalk when it is not raining. Many driveways, if they are troughed or have raised shoulders serve also as flumes though this is not their primary, obvious function. (BTW, without the pictures, I wouldn't have any idea what your situation involved.)...See MoreI need help with Pavers/Falgstone against a sloped sidewalk
Comments (2)I'm not sure my picture is posting. Hopefully I've provide enough detail....See MoreRevolutionary Gardens
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