That is a good idea - should have thought of that myself. Here's what happened when I called:

- got transferred to a "product specialist" who had no notes or knowledge about availability. She basically looked at the same Asko website that I did. She told me to call my local distributor to ask them what information they had about when dealers could place orders b/c that would be an indication of when the units would be available.

- called the local distributor who had no information and she told me to call a dealer directly. She told me that Sub-Zero always refers calls to the distributors even though they never have more current information than SZ headquarters. And really, why would they?

- called another dealer (#3) to enquire and he sent me pricing and seemed to indicate they are available to order now.

- appliance guy replied to my cross-post on another form and said ETA in Seattle is 3 weeks.

What is the appeal for asko washer /dryer set ? Is it the near boil wash ?

the concerns about asko I have are the lack of available parts , and possibly lack of service in Seattle , a recent history of quality issues .

I like the design of the new Asko Logic washers/dryers but am also concerned about Asko quality of late. What's everyone's opinion on Asko now? And what is the pricing for the new logic line?

The pricing I received yesterday was $2,059 for the washer (W4114CT) and $1,429 vented dryer (T411VDT).

I was looking for a w/d set for my master bedroom closet that had enough capacity to wash king-size bedding, but I did not want full-size so I could conserve closet space. I also wanted a vented dryer and solid engineering. Asko fit all these criteria. I was going to order the Pro-Series but this new series has more programs, a more modern design and is available in titanium (versus white).

nice looking machine Would wonder about the service (and parts)

Is the Logic line cold-fill? Does it have the 205-degree temperature capacity? (I tried to figure this out by looking on the website, but even using the "compare models" feature, these important details were not included.)

I would not go with Asko ever again. At that price I would go with Miele.

@ rococogurl --

You make a good point. However, for us (as we need to replace a current Asko washer) a significant consideration is that our current washer is not set up for anything but a cold-fill line. We would need to completely re-do plumbing lines in order to accommodate a washer that requires hot-water intake.

In addition, I love the cold-fill-only set-up, because that means that laundry never interferes with showers. However, what I am most keenly interested in is the capacity of any washer to achieve truly HOT WATER washes. My Asko has been doing that for 15 years. It gave out a few weeks ago, and my reliable repair guy tells me that the control board has given out, and that Asko no longer makes this model of the control board. While that is a strike against Asko's service/repair support, I am ALSO not happy with Miele's service/repair support, based on the fact that Miele has quoted us a $750 replacement cost for the outer door of our Miele Masterchef wall oven (see my thread in the Appliances forum).

There is a place in South Carolina that fixes computer boards for appliances. I just had one done for a family member who has an older Miele machine and can’t find the parts. It was 99.00 and 10.00 for shipping to fix the board and came with a warranty. Not sure you want to go that route but have their info if wanted.

the w4114/t411 machines will be available in the US mid July 2018

@rococogurl , why not ? What was your experience ?

The Asko site shows a $400 rebate on the new Logic Washer and Dryer, but only in White not Titanium. I'd still like to know how this new Asko washer does, since the Miele W1 is now out in the US.

Any websites hosting a review of the washer and dryer?

I'm not sure how real these reviews are, since some date back to Nov/Dec last year. I thought this unit just came out in the past two months.

https://www.appliancesconnection.com/asko-w4114cw.html

same question here fauguy (the reviews on applianceconnection cannot be "real" for new models i think their reviews are for all askos combined ) it is also very disappointing and odd that the titanium have no rebate why is that?

Here's the link to the $400 rebate, only for the White models, not Titanium.

https://www.ajmadison.com/ajmadison/itemdocs/AskoLaundryMay-Sep2018.pdf

From looking at the applianceconnection site, it does appear their reviews are either fake or grouped together, as there is a new Samsung washer that just hit the US market and already has reviews on their site for the past few months.

https://www.appliancesconnection.com/samsung-ww22n6850qx.html

https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/WW22N6850QX.html

I had an Asko pair for about 5 years in a weekend home. I liked the temp controls and the true hot washes. Great with whites. However, the lower cycles -- delicate etc never worked. They replaced the controller board and the machine. Same cycles never worked. The machine just stopped. Then the controller board in the second machine failed -- like the OPs. I looked all over the world for one but none available. So the machine had cold water wash only. Additionally, the water level was so low I could not wash my queen quilts for the guest room. The whole thing never became saturated -- no sensors. And it only had part time use. The company had been sold so no new boards for the Swedish machines.

No washer should only partially work. If that's the case (and we checked the electricity as well -- no problem) there's something up with the washer.

suburbanmd went for the TOTL Asko, the one that supposedly competes with the Little Giant. There were issues with cycles. That machine was also replaced with Miele as I did.

Miele service can vary around the country. However, their warranties are fairly priced and give excellent coverage. Every time I replaced with Miele my problems went away -- that includes oven, washer and fridge. My Miele DW was 14 when I moved and still going.

Truly hot washes come from having an internal heater, of course. Miele produced 158F washes as does my current Bosch. True, Asko does 190 and 205 and around here we love us a boil wash. But I never used those very hot cycles very much. With today's fabrics -- all the short fiber cotton and synthetics -- I find I use 125 washes for most things. Do use the true hot for towels, which is likely shortening the life of the towels but I'll take that. Would not buy any washer today without an internal heater.

I don't know if the Miele Little Giant has a cold water intake only but it has a very powerful heater, great rinsing and real performance.

So basically what your saying is for the price, go with a Miele not an Asko washer?

if you have a servicer in your area and can get away with smaller capacity then yes

My only experience owning Miele is with their Dishwashers. I had bought and used one from 4/10 to 1/18 when the motor died on it. For the price I paid ($1400) I had hoped to of got 10-12 years of use instead of only 8.

I had spent a few months looking, and pretty much knew I'd either go with another Miele or try Asko. The Miele was now $1600 and Asko $1400. I was leaning more towards the Asko since there was also a mail in rebate. But the dealer had the Miele G6625 new in box (customer cancelation) for $1200, so I decided to go with it. Had it two month and no problems.

As far as service, in my area (Ft Lauderdale/Boca), Miele has their own in-house techs (I had used before with the other dishwasher). For Asko, they rely on another company called High End Appliance Service, which only does SZ/Wolf/Asko for FL. So either brand has good service in my area.

Naturally, I'd rather not require service if there product is made well.

My GE Profile top load washer from 2006 has never needed service and is still going strong. Price was about $800 at the time, plus the 5 year warranty from Lowe's that was about $100.

I've looked at current top loads, and the ones without an agitator just don't clean well to me. But there are a few that still have an agitator (GE and Maytag Commercial) that do better.

Since I've never owned a front load washer before, I can't really speak to their cleaning, but the reviews of many of them over the years (Whirlpool/Maytag, GE, LG, Samsung, Electrolux) haven't been too good. Which makes me cautious. Also, my GE top load has 3.5 cuft capacity, but Miele is 2.2/2.4 and Asko is 2.8, so a bit smaller.

My Asko 6424 washer stopped working last week two days before going on vacation (hated going to the laundromat.) Loaded the washer, shut the door, pushed the power button. Nothing. Checked the circuit breaker and it was ok (dryer has power.) Called Asko and they walked me through some troubleshooting steps, but nothing worked. Service is scheduled for later this month. I hope it’s not the controller board. I’ve had the unit for about eight years, but it’s been lightly used. I live alone and average only 1-2 washers per week. I’m really disappointed as I’ve really enjoyed the machine. I appreciate learning about other 24” machines, though I hope mine can be repaired at a reasonable cost.

I had a Meile dishwasher that is still going strong after an install in 2007. They are quality appliances. My mother's Asko dishwasher is even older and still working. The whirlpool dishwasher that I replaced with the Meile almost burnt our house down. Plastic everywhere and built like a disposable straw. Whatever.

@rococogurl

What brand washers do you currently own (Asko, Bosch, or Miele), and which did you like more?

Fauguy,

I don't know if rococogurl saw this but she currently owns a Bosch set and has provided a preliminary review of it here: New Bosch 500 Pair Delivered.

Good luck!