How to retrofit deep pantry cabinets to make them more efficient
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Comments (8)My vote: Get a frameless cabinet (a diagram of the difference here) and here made for there, no matter what you do in other places in the kitchen; paint it as if it's wall, and give it a slab door, also painted to look like wall. Make the cabinet go all the way to the ceiling. You can even skip the toekick on that cabinet if you want (a local unfinished-furniture place can make this for you if nec.--it is essentially a bookcase with doors, just leave off the plinth on the bottom. The flat wood door(s) can go ALL the way up, pretending to be wall. You might want a fixed shelf halfway up--just at eyebrow height, maybe--to stabilize it; you might also want the door to break halfway up so you don't have a weirdly overtall door. Pullouts will be crucial, w/ that 30" depth. And I agree w/ you on how important it is to have them be adjustable once they're in. The frameless cabinet is crucial to that. Here's the best way to get them adjustable. use those slotted shelf standards they use in bookcases, and buy these clips that you can attach drawer slides to Then get either drawer boxes (from some place like www.maplecraftusa.com or TapeEase.com or many other places you can find online; I personally think dovetail is overkill, and would try to find some place that will use a rabbet or dado joint) or pullouts (from some place like www.shelvesthatslide.com which will make them to the size you need) to be your pullouts. You might be able to find a local woodworker who will make the drawer boxes for you, or the pullout shelves. You could even make pullout shelves out of 3/4" plywood w/ lattice nailed and glued to the sides as rims. You can get tallish drawer boxes to hold a lot; ShelvesThatSlide.com has a deep pullout w/ a slanted side--taller toward the back, to keep stuff from falling out; shorter toward the front, so you can see in. I did once buy a SINGLE drawer slide for Elfa baskets--you could mount them on the cabinet wall, or under a shelf. But my vote would be, if you can swing the...See MoreVote on concept: more drawers and cabinets or bigger pantry
Comments (19)Wow, thanks everyone! Now I see why I couldn't decide, it seems fairly split with you too. Lascatx, today I'll work on listing everything in my kitchen to try to start thinking about how I'll use everything to see if that helps. My current kitchen is so dysfunctional, it's hard to know what I would do if things actually made sense around me :) It's hard to visualize how it would feel if things were handy and in the area I needed them to be because I've never experienced that. Bodhi, the couple of people I know who have work areas in their pantries love them. But, I only know two people with that setup. I see the appeal of having things I never use out and ready to use on a counter. For instance, a panini maker. If I have to get it off the shelf and set it up, I'd probably just eat the sandwich cold and be done with it :) Now that I think about it, when I had room for it on my counter, I used it all the time, but now that it's been stuck on a high shelf, I never use it because it's heavy for me. But, like you, I always wonder if I had a super duper great new kitchen, would I want to be in the pantry preparing things. I'm going to have a pretty open floor plan (kitchen, dining, living room in a rectangle) so a friend just pointed out that while she prefers having her storage IN her kitchen, having the big pantry would allow me to have less walls in my kitchen to perhaps go better with the open plan. Lavenderlass, do you have any pics of your future pantry you could share? It sounds like we are thinking about a similar concept. Many of you have a wall of shallow storage. I love the look and functionality of that. I like how nothing gets lost behind things on a shallow shelf and not having to go in a separate room. But, I don't know where something like that could go in our setup. The new home is going to be all about the view with a lot of windows. So any wall I put up for kitchen storage, means something else will be closed off from view. It's a give and take and I guess I'm not sure of what the balance of form vs function should be yet. I guess I want a long row of appliance garages without actually having to take up a wall to do it ;) Because of my sensitive back, I find if I don't have any appliance on a working counter, I won't go get it to use (like the blender or mixer). So I guess that is why having everything out on a counter in the pantry seems practical. If I can figure out how to do this in the actual kitchen and have it work with the open plan, that would probably be even better. My dream is to have a big island so it obviously makes sense that I'm able to use it instead of carrying things back and forth to the pantry. I'll keep working on this and I'll look forward to getting more of your ideas once I post some potential layouts. Would posting just the outline be best so you all can visualize some great ideas from a blank slate, or is it more helpful to have something......See MoreMaking bottom shelf cabinets more efficient
Comments (15)thx marti... maybe I should just leave it like that - lol! it'll probably look much like that most of the time. the cab finish is that stuff like pickled something. It photos pinkish but is a greyish blue IRL. I don't think it's even real wood. I plan to use a door from the cabs in my bdrm (that will be moved to the craft/store room anyway) to try to refinish and see what I can change it to. The innards of most of the cabs are in really good shape tho. I'm thinking that even if it doesn't refinish in a good way that it'll be easier to paint the edges and buy new doors/drawer fronts. The sink cab is a mess underneath tho. that one needs pulled out. Can't even image doing that kind of a thing til next yr. After I've had time (months) to re-coop from moving. At the rate I'm going I won't even be moved for about 6 months or so. that silly dog! she's crazy. wish I could post a video clip. I got a few clips with her chasing her own tail! If she hears a weird noise (like a hammer pounding, fireworks, a motorcycle) she'll stop whatever she is doing (even running) and immediately start chasing her tail. Where does this come from? it's hysterical tho. She reminds me of a mixture of my boydog and my girldog. She's a little stinker -but often very sweet and usually very silly! sure is entertaining - lol! Now if she'd just learn to bark at someone. About 2 wks ago my tire guy came by to fix a tire on my car. He pulled in with his big truck, fixed the tire (all within about 10 ft of her) and she didn't make a peep. He later told me she just watched him. He remembers my boy - he said 'oh, I remember him. You'd pull in and stay in your truck til you came out'. He scared people - lol! I keep hoping this stinker will realize she is to protect our land - and me, not just be cute!...See MoreRetrofitting supersusans in upper cabs--a (long) success story
Comments (29)Christine Yup, I love that picture --though I would have made the susans at least an inch bigger in diameter and maybe more so they snugged close to the posts. I can't do mine like that, though, because the posts are in the front corner. In one of those flashes of imbecility, I thought I could use pie cut susans around the post. DUH. It wouldn't even START to turn. But I can get nearly 17'' diameter susans in those dead corners, which will be a huge improvement over the unreachable depths behind the post. I just thought of something. In corner shelves like those pictured with no center post, if the susans are made as large as possible and then D cut in a straight line from post to post, access to the contents would be better because protruding shelves above and below would not obscure a rotated shelf. I REALLY wish I didn't have those corner posts!! Anyway, this is an EASY project. Just cut a plywood circle, screw in 4 screws to attach the bearing, and it's done--except for your fav. chore, painting. But there is no need to paint the bottom, and I'll put cushy cupboards lining on the top, so only the edges need painting....See MoreKD
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