Once you decide on a rose I suggest you install a drip system to keep it watered.

Watering in not a problem. It is right by the water spigot in my yard. I mean like 5 feet. Here is a picture of the area.

Wow what a great spot Donna ! I know you say it's hot in your area ( of course I believe you!) but that pic looks so refreshing and cool. Do you have it narrowed down to some favorites? I only have Renea and it's a climber so I can't help with suggestions. Bummer about the hydrangea. They are so beautiful!

I am not sure lilyfinch, I am having a hard time figuring out growth habits! I was hoping for some real world experience! I may even do a pillar there! Got that Setzer. . Not Thornley though...

My setzer is still blooming in my garage! I can't believe it. Gonna be a great rose!

Toolbelt, I'm kinda a newbie myself!! Lilyfinch, do you have Spice? My band has 8 buds on it and 2 blooms! It's unreal! My Setzer hasn't bloomed, but has a bud. I am dying to smell it! How does she smell? Oh, you should see Ducher! She is growing and covered in buds! My buff cutting has great roots, but still no leaves. Just a stick in a pot! Lol. I have gobs of babies I have to get thru winter. Keep your fingers crossed!! We have temps in the 80s so everything is growing good. Cold starts next week. News said a small chance of snow! Woo hoo!

Toolbelt great suggestion! It's on my list!

What a lovely tranquil looking partly wooded yard you have there. Trees are wonderful but can sometimes present a challenge for roses between the shade and root competition. Do you have a color preference for the roses? I grow Mortimer Sackler which is almost thornless, but it's also a climber. Is the chainlink fence on the property line? I think a climber or rambler might look lovely trained up and along the top of the fence if your neighbors wouldn't mind.

I agree with arlene_82 that climbers trained along the top of the fence would look great….. However, I suggest you get an agreement in writing that any canes on their side of the fence will not be cut off.

My neighbor loved my roses that were on the dividing fence but her caretaker/lawn mower guy didn’t. So over the course of a few months he succeeded in shearing the canes off so nothing was on their side.

To correct the problem without going to court… lol I got some 10 foot long posts, cut them in two, and installed them about 18 inches away from the fence (2 feet would have been better but since the roses are 19 years old.....) and 8-10 feet apart — two feet in the ground, 3 feet above. Added copper caps to protect the tops of each post, drilled a hole though each near the top and then ran a stiff wire through the holes, clamping it off at the end posts. Next I moved the roses to the wire so they can now get big. I do have to monitor the new grow and tie it back but other than that they are making a come back.

Do you have a color preference? If you like white Yvonne Rabier makes a really nice low bush. I also don't recall Gruss an Aachen having any thorns. I love both roses.

Toolbelt. The fence that it will be on is all my property. The wood fence backs up to my neighbors, but our property line is 3 ft past the fence. Our landscape guys actually cut the other side. Vapor I think to replace the hydrangea I need something that would show up against the light colored brick.

Great. You could do the same along the back wood fence. Climbers mainly flower at the top, so if you bend them horizontally they will put out more branches (laterals I believe they are called), which in turn will give you a ton of roses. Place a trellis inline with the roses, let them go up and over it, then add a swing. Something like this:

Gotcha! What about Barcelona, Duchess de Brabant or one of the Kosters? Here's a pic you've probably seen of my GaA, but I think he gets some thorns with age, unlike the pink GaA which I've read is thornless.:

Toolbelt, that is my plan. I have some new bands potted up with plans for that fence next year. Vap, I have Excellenz and Duchess in pots, those are both great ideas. I worry that Duchess would fry by the house, but hopefully my redbud will shade that area more (dappled) next year. Toolbelt, I have a lot more yard south of the chainlink fence. We just moved the fence that was already in the yard, (it was around a patio with a hot tub) we extended it south to give my little dogs some yard. My neighbor on the west has a privacy fence around their pool and 2 boxers that bark all the time. I didn't want my little dogs fence near them to just make them bark even more! lol! They are sweet dogs, not vicious, just talkers!

arlene I am going to plant the wooden fence next year, I have bands that will be ready by then! I am so excited! I have Crep (running joke about how much I love this rose!) Prosperity, and buff beauty. My neighbor on that side (south) is kinda a grumpy old man, but he does take excellent care of his yard. I think he will appreciate the blooms. I am going to run wire along the fence so I can control the canes better. I do have terrible soil in portions of the yard and have really been working on that! The tree roots are just something I have to deal with, but in the heat of summer, some shade is needed in my south Ga garden. Brutally hot and humid. The hurricanes and wind gust have weeded out a few trees for me, thanks mother nature, but I do have a couple we are going to remove. (on a wait list with our tree guy) They are old pines in bad shape that could possibly hit our house. We had one hit the house from straight line winds. We were lucky and had very little damage. We always #prayforthepines in bad weather!! lol

gagalzone8 do a search in this forum for ‘A simple watering system without drip units’ as I still believe you should install a watering system. It shows how you can provide water to 8 plants (without drip units at the end of each line).

However, if you duplicate the branching method at the end of those 8 lines you could water 64 plants. All you would have is one 1/4 inch line running directly to the first post then 8 lines running directly to 8 more posts that are where you need them. Simple as that. Each plant would get the same amount of water. The amount of time it’s on determines the amount of water dispersed.

Just pin the hose on top of the lawn with the pins about 24 inches apart (just enough to keep the lawn mower from eating the hose). After a few weeks the grass will cover the hoses and you won’t know they are there — that’s why I say ‘directly’ to the posts.

Heritage seems to have the growth habit you are looking for and is thornless. Fast repeat, long blooming season, vigorous great fragrance, somewhat disease resistant but cupped blooms shatter.