Quartzite Island: Best Options for Proper Support?
Our kitchen remodel will feature a 107"x36" island, and we want to be very, very sure the overhang areas are properly supported. So many here are very generous with time and advice, but as a newbie to this I'm not very clear on what the frequently used support (pun intended!) terms mean. There are a lot of photos of completed islands with good sized seating areas, but it's been hard to find "in progress", or "under the hood" photos of pre countertop install.
Here are four photos that hopefully give all the info on our plan:
1st Photo: Overhead of kitchen layout without counter tops. Two cabinets in the island, the rest will be open for seating.
There are three doors missing from this layout: Main entry to kitchen from foyer is at bottom left of the 19'4" wall. Door to family room is near bottom of left 13'5" wall. Entry to dining room on far right, just below the fridge. Door at top left of plan opens to deck/ backyard.
2nd Photo: View into kitchen layout (Ikea does not have island legs available in their planner, but wouldn't it be cool if you really could float at 52" overhang...), and front view of island with measurements.
3rd Photo:
Layout with 30x24" & 24x24" cabinets and addition of table apron/leg support.
About 10" behind the cabinets, about 51.5" by 36" to the right of the cabinets.
Would additional support/framing/blocking/plywood be needed within the 50 x 24"-ish apron?
Layout with 30x24" & 24x24" cabinets, plus two added 21x15" cabinets for support counter top support.
About 10" behind the 24" deep cabinets, and about 10" around the exposed side the the 15" deep cabinets. Doors would face the same direction as the other two cabinets.
4th Photo: Our Brown Fantasy quartzite, just because it's so pretty :-)
Other counters will have Ceaserstone Raven.
Thank you!
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Comments (26)Thank you for all these informative comments. I wish I had more expertise. I'm kind of getting a vibe from my contractor, because we both know the carpenter screwed up and forgot the overhang in the first place (at which time proper supports could have been integrated) like, 'Just give her whatever she asks for.' And he and the carpenter are probably getting a vibe from me like, 'I don't have a ton of faith in anything these guys say.' So I'm grateful for all these comments. To chiefneil: I'm glad to hear you say keep the 9" planks, since that's what I"m doing. Could you explain a little more how to support them? I do have two athletic teenaged sons and their friends to worry about, and I did think about just putting plain wooden legs on either side - but no one seems to like this idea. I guess I should have added that the top cannot simply be removed and put back to add flat steel beams - it had to go in in two pieces because of my low ceiling and the posts at either end of the island. Taking it off at this point means destroying it. So any supports will have to be added after-the-fact. Legs and corbels at either end will work. Steel brackets will work. But now I'm nervous about what effect that has on the wood... Staceyneil (any relation to chiefneil?): are you sure your overhang has no support? Maybe they built it in and it's invisible? Your situation makes me think I should leave well enough alone! Would love to hear from anyone who has a similar overhang, and how they support it - or don't... Thanks!...See MoreHelp! Leathered quartzite island top with damage and then more damage!
Comments (72)I am a fabricator. It distresses me when someone goes thru an experience like yours because the stone supplier or fabricator did not accurately communicate the material properties of a particular stone. In my shop we make CERTIAN a customer knows the properties of a stone they are considering including signing off on the details because we don't want that unhappy customer coming back a few months down the road. "soft quartzite " doesn't exist. If it's soft (and etches) it's marble and has all the performance deficiencies marble is known for. with Real quartzite is so hard it's a challenge to process in the fab shop which is part of the reason it's considerably more expensive. For your application the only long term option is to replace the top with any one of hundreds of options in natural stone that will hold up to your planned use with little or no maintenance....See MorePole in kitchen island. Best option for the worktop?
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Comments (10)line the cabinet to the right up with the blocked spot above. It's ok to give exposed hoods some room on sides. I actually prefer this to give a more open look & keep the occasional heavy steam that did not get sucked up off the surrounding cabinets. same sizes on both sides for symmetry. Tile all the way up. Read the stove and hood instruction manuals for suggested placement. It also depends how much you cook, in what is the best type of hood & the spacing needed. Here's an example, that explains why.. From Proline Range Hoods FAQ section: "The third variable which affects the effective capture area of your range hood is the size of the hood. You can have the strongest and most powerful vent hood, with the best design, and if you don’t cover the cooktop and trap the cooking exhaust you can never get rid of it. This is especially true for range hoods over island cooktops. Once you have considered your cooking style consider the size of the range hood. Try to size the hood 6” larger in width than the cook top. Most range hoods come in 22-27” depths with some of the range hoods being 30” deep. The more coverage the better for the serious cooks. If you use your cooktop and you are serious about cooking then remember “coverage is king” especially in an island range hood setting. You can also help yourself by trying to keep your cooking over the primary capture area of your range hood. BBQ and Heavy Smoke cooking environments, both indoor and outside need coverage so size of the range hood is critical. Again, if you can catch the smoke and exhaust you can get rid of it but if you don’t “trap” or catch the smoke it is almost impossible to get rid of without removing an inefficient unnecessary amount of additional air in the room. All of which must be heated or air conditioned in most cases." http://www.prolinerangehoods.com/1-801-973-3959/support/common-questions/...See Moresuzyq53
6 years agoSo this is the metal base we had fabricated to support our massive island table. We use it with three large chairs on each side, but it could seat up to 10 with smaller chairs. With the chairs in place you hardly notice the frame. Underneath the slab looks exactly like whats on the floor (a big rectangle and is screwed into the plywood.
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