Thanks, Patty. I went out to take some photos now, but the sun is blinding - can't see what I'm shooting -I'll wait till there's some shade.

Last week, I snapped this pic before being called away.

The week before, I removed a Flower carpet Amber from another part of the garden; it had rrd. I'd never seen it in person until I discovered it on one of my best performers. Horrific, classical, exuberantly prolific witch's broom. Also seemingly arising very quickly.

I wondered, therefore, if I was just gun-shy upon first finding the new red growth on FC Red, and ended up not removing it the night of discovery.

Jump forward one week:

I'm more suspicious now that it's not good. Any thoughts?

I think it looks OK. I'm not an expert.

If you are talking about the last 2 photos that is rrd. From the looks of it I would think that the entire plant should be removed. I'm sorry Rifis the poor rose looks bad.

You know it's no wonder we get so worried about rambunctious new growth. Look at how fast that went from maybe it is not right. To abnormal as all get out.

Look like normal new growth to me (???)

The first pic that is.

Thank you, everyone, for responding. Over the last many months, I've avoided many rrd discussions because they were depressing. So thank you.

About 30 minutes after I posted the pictures above, I expanded the last picture on my PC. The sepals (I think that's the right term) reminded me too much of what I saw on my full-blown rrd FC Amber (on which the witch's broom seemed to be arising from the tips of buds), so I did this:

and then went for a long walk.

Very sad. It was not one of my top 10 favorites, but was a good rose. Planted about 15 years ago in a section of the garden where walnut trees once stood. Came in a 1 gallon pink pot. Single woody stem arising from soil; 5 inches high, terminating in a slight swelling from which grew 3 small flowering canes. I called Anthony Tesselar, the US introducer, to ask if I should plant at the same soil level as it was in the pot, or if I should "bury the graft". The representative told me "same soil level as it is now, in the pot". He told me "I don't know why they grow the bud union so high out by you" (!) I planted it 6 inches deeper than that. I now realize, thanks to Chris, that it wasn't grafted, but rather an OR candelabra.

Right or wrong, I felt I should do whatever was best to minimize potential risk to the remaining roses. I sprayed FC red with horticultural oil late today, prior to removing it. Not sure this was of value. I didn't have hair spray. I did nothing to nearby roses. Thank you, Patty, for reminding me of what I had read at some other sites about the pros and cons of miticides for nearby roses.

I am so sorry that your garden got hit by the plague.

It is very sad. Every time I try to answer one of these I feel sick. Like the year that I lost the most roses to rrd. I tend to feel the same way about other peoples roses as I do my own. Rather fearful of making a mistake which I have done. Would almost never suggest taking out the entire plant. I have saved several of my roses of that I'm positive. In your little roses case it appeared that it may have been infected at the same time as your other rose.

I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how to say this. In spring when pruning I do my best to watch each rose for any signs of unusual growth from previous season. When the rose start regrowing If rrd shows I completely remove the rose.

During the season I remove any unusual growth as soon as I see it. If it comes back the rose is cut to the ground while bagging as I go.

This is where I do it different than most. If there is the slightest I not positive about moment I don't dig it out yet. An example of why is the new growth that came up on my South Africa. It was that rrd red, super rubbery. long scrappy leaves, one to three sets of laterals coming from every nook. The only thing symptom that wasn't present was hyper thorny. So I cut it back and waited she grew back up healthy as can be.

I'm a long way from being an expert on anything actually. But I figure that once the rose is completely cut down I have eliminated the mites (except for those which may have fallen off). I suspect that doesn't happen all that often. They are busy going about their business and I have never yet had it spread to a neighboring rose. If the rose was systemically infected it will come up sick and needs removed completely. I figure I'm safe in doing this or hope so because I'm on it like a mother bear protecting cubs. In other words I'm always keeping an eye on them.

I believe there is root to root transmission. RRD really moves thru a rose hedge or a continuous planting of ground cover roses like wildfire. A rose which has been cut down to the ground is still a threat to its neighbors if roots are mingled together.

Where I volunteer ALL the KnockOut hedges are gone, and all the ground cover plantings (Flower Carpets, Sea Foam, Purple Pavement). We've increased our spacing between roses and we wait much longer to replant.

The tough thing about RRD is that we're at the mercy of the wind, so even a 48 acre park continues to see new infections from mites which blow in.

barbarag_happy(8A) , did you test any of the suspected roses. Did you check for possible herbicide damage?