Red clay soil help.
Joel Burton
6 years ago
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Comments (8)Lol thanks Texas weed. Wow so no fertilizer at all? I thought maybe two applications a year but guess not. I knew better than to try the Bible on it. I just didn't know a thing about centipede at all so thank u sir! Hopefully it will turn out to be great for my back yard. I will try to post dome pics and let y'all know how it goes. There's not alot of info on centipede really....See MoreGrowing grass in red clay soil
Comments (13)Hi - I too am a 'newbie' to NC gardening and after living in/around Chicago for 50 years, this red clay has ALMOST done me in... I am convinced that whenI first moved here that FIRST I should have enrolled in 'pottery classes', invested in a Kiln and got rid of alot of this clay BEFORE I began bringing in mulch (14 square yds.) and top-soil (12 square yards of questionable 'dirt') and peat, more peat and MORE peat... ;-) It HAS been a very interesting 4 years since I have moved here. This is virgin soil that has NEVER been improved (I live in a mobile home park). I have even found a lot of arrowheads in the soil. Apparently people do NOT believe in 'improving' soil in trailer parks... ;-) I am the talk of the entire park for 'wasting' my time/$ on my yard, but I consider it MY home so I pay them no mind ;-) I even save all my coffee grounds to work into the soil. The three plants that seem to do very well for me (even in this red clay) are Irises, Daylilies and Cannas, but I too am having a lot of difficulty with GRASS. Or the 'lack' of grass. That 12 yds. of 'top soil' that I got turned into a nightmare as it contained a lot of dark grey/black CLAY!!! I have learned that I prefer RED clay over the dark clay. At least you can 'see' it ;-) What else(besides coffee grounds) can I just toss on to help break down this soil? Any help would be much appreciated. Do any of you have web pages/sites from your gardens as you worked on them? Links would be appreciated by me as I feel very much like a pioneer in this endeavor to 'get the best' of virgin/native soil... Here is a link that might be useful: 4th year of winning Red Clay war......See MoreAmending that 'ole Red clay soil-
Comments (10)The Phlomis isn't particularly wild about soil being super acidic. It naturally grows in Syria, in stoney outcrops. So it would prefer dry, rocky, limestone soil. If you have red clay, this is would be the opposite to the conditions in your garden. However, you can still grow it. I would NOT recommend simply ammending each "planting hole" as your landscaper suggested. It is far better to ammend a large growing area all at once. If you just ammend holes the first time around, then you have pockets of well draining soil right next to pockets of possibly soggy soil ( this is if you are gardening in clay, mind you). Also, the addition of pine bark mulch as your sole ammendment (if that's what was put in), can further acidify the soil. Your phlomis would do fantastically well for you if you dig (as in at least double dig) in LOTS, and I mean it takes LOTS of sharp builders sand. This sand contains copieous amounts of sharp and larger sand particles often with high limestone content that will leach into the soil. Another trick? Plant a hunk of old concrete right by your phlomis after you ammend the soil with other materials! This works with lavender, thymes and other limestone lovers too! Doesn't have to be a huge large piece either. Walkways, and sidewalk cement is a great thing to use. Also, planting your limestone loving plants by the curb also helps. A word of warning with phlomis. It also likes a lean soil, and our clay is nutritious. I would avoid ammending with copious amounts of manures, or compost alone. Mixed with the sand, this is great. But alone it helps hold in water AND break up soil particles. You want less water too. GGG...See Moresoil tips for red clay and sandstone?
Comments (6)When you finish that orginal area it should generously reward not only you but also generations to come who in the future purchase your property. It may take some time for you to feel the need for even more gardening space. If and when that time comes, and you just simply cannot bring yourself to do that kind of hard work again; why don't you consider installing Lasagna garden beds. There are sites which can be googled that give very good detailed instruction on how to create them. The following is an overview of how to do that, and once you investigate it a little further, you will see that it is a much easier way to get good garden beds. In autumn or early winter: first: cover the area you have determined for the bed with non-corigated cardboard or about 10 layers of spread out newspapers which you have sprayed down with water during the layering. second: cover all the newspaper with about 4 to 6 inches of dried peat moss which you have saturated with water. Third: cover the peat with layers of oak leaves, grass clipping, compost, vegetable and fruit scraps, garden soil, pecan shells and other vegetative by products, which one might put into a compost bin. install a boarder around the bed to prevent migration of the layers. Then simply wait for the cold composting process to begin. I do not know of anyone who stirs or mixes the layers of their lasagna beds. If over time the bed seems to settle too low, put more layers of leaves, grass clipping or vegetative scraps on to raise the bed's height. The end result should be a bed which is 10 - 12 inches high. After all four seasons have passed and during the following early spring planting time, is when you can begin to transplant small potted vegetables or bulbs into the bed. Only thing is that, instead of digging holes to do the planting, you will simply cut into the bed enough to lift away the right amount of layers for planting your starter vegetable or other plants. At that point some people use a good quality garden soil mixed with compost to fill the hole enough to secure and firm-in each hardened off transplant. Most people do not like to step up into their lasagna garden beds, so from the beginning they simply design the layout of them in widths that they can easily reach across and with paths between the beds where they can reach across at least half of each bed from either side....See Morebeckyinrichmond
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