Oh my God, Lilyfinch ... you have some beautiful views from your garden. That river is so beautiful !! How lucky you are to be so close to the water ... it will bring a lot of moisture into your garden. My climate is so dry ... I envy who has moisture in the air for their plants.

When I translate your message I can not understand what question. I would like to be able to help by giving an opinion but it is impossible because I do not understand what you demand. I am sorry.

I agree with El Jardin- what a stunning view. Generous Gardener did well for me until the voles ate it. Heaven On Earth was not a great performer for me. The flowers are pretty but lack scent. It blackspotted some but Generous Gardener seemed a bit more disease resistant and smells wonderful.

Sharon

Honeymoon is a beautiful white rose with a soft pink centre. But if you read the height, it says it only grows to 7 feet. Sometimes it forgets to grow to 7 feet and you end up with a nice 5 foot rose bush. I have spoken severely to my Honeymoon and told it that there are other climbers out there I am lusting after. Either grow to at least 7 feet or you will be dropped kicked over the fence!!

I will take a picture of mine tomorrow. I'm trying to get it to wrap around the trunk of a tree and so far so good. It bloomed heavily right after I planted it, didn't pause on growing and is now forming new buds. The blooms aren't super big and I don't remember it having a powerful fragrance. The color for me wasn't a real bright white, more cream colored and I don't recall any trace of pink. The foliage is a nice dark, green, a little glossy and looks very healthy.

It is in an area of the garden that receives a questionable amount of sunlight but so far it is growing and putting out buds just the same.

Thank you everyone!!

Maria - there is a new climber rose called honeymoon. Do you grow it? Or " the generous gardener "? I am looking for a rose to go where the bench is. I'm open to your suggestions!

Enchanted rose: did it rebloom well for you ? I'm concerned about that . I've read both, that it does and that it doesn't. :)

oldrosarian: thanks for the heads up on the size! I'm ok if it stays 5 ft actually . Is the rebloom and vigor acceptable to you ?

Ljsemar : I am really looking forward to seeing photos!!! It sounds great . Honestly I can get both and put generous gardener elsewhere as they both seem lovely. Tough decision!!

Sharon - you are being so helpful ! Thank you !! I already grow TG and love it to pieces . It's one of my favorite ever . Compassion has always been in my list of roses to grow so that's very helpful . My only concern was If it would look stiff and woody. I grew aloha and I hated the plant itself . I wasn't sure if another climbing hybrid tea would do the same? And Claire Matin is beautiful ! I do need to look at that as well .

I was also considering wedgewood at one point , our local nursery sells it . I wonder if they stil have it ? Thank you for all your recommendations!!

Thanks Lily. My Compassion never grew large enough to get woody since winter dieback was awful bUT she had such beautiful flowers and a heavenly scent.

My Claire Matin is very hardy and a good bloomer. I can't remember how strong her scent is but she has nice pliable canes so great on an arbor.

Wedgewood is so delicate looking but very tough. I can't remember how often she blooms though. We have such a short season here. My roses typically don't start blooming until the end of June unless we have a very warm spring. Last year we had a severe spring drought and bitter cold in late April, temps in the teens, so all the young tender leaves were killed. My lace cap hydrangeas didn't re-leaf until mid July and had next to no blooms. I thought they were dead. The roses performance suffered too so I won't judge performance on last year which was horrible for any Massachusetts' gardeners. HMF rates Wedgewood as good plus for repeat though. There's not much info on her. I don't think she is widely grown but she is very vigorous and has good disease resistance.

I have the opposite experience of Sharon with TGG and Heaven on Earth. My Heaven on Earth is a fantastic beautiful light apricot that blooms off and on all summer on a large bush, although it doesn't climb. TGG puts out long arms eventually in the summer but only blooms once a year with a few flowers here and there if I'm lucky and it's a washed out beige that blows quickly. I agree that Clair Matin is a very nice climber in a light pink, and you might consider Colette as a soft pink that wouldn't conflict with the honeysuckle too much.

Cynthia

Cynthia- it's amazing how different our environments are for our roses, even though we're in the same temp zones. Heaven on Earth had beautiful flowers but tended to black spot. My Teasing Georgia bloomed more than once a year but her flowers did blow quickly. I wouldn't call her prolific though. She was a very soft yellow for me, but was in more shade than some of my other roses. maybe that kept her color a bit more yellow.

Sharon

Honeymoon is new to me this year but already blooming like mad. Love the creamy full bloom.

april- that's good to know. I have 3 of these. Is yours own root or grafted? Grafted seem to mature quicker than own root.

Sharon

Cynthia - thanks for your reviews!! I think I would like Clair matin for somewhere in this garden .. I grow collette on an arbor but they are just babies . They have been making blooms since I got them though! Really lovely!!

Sharon - I am surprised your teasing Georgia blows quickly and isn't prolific . I was just looking at mine the other day wondering how in the world do I prune her back if she never takes a break ! And my blooms last a long while. Wonder what the deal is ?

April I'm glad to hear your positive review!! :)

Sharon - yep, you're right that areas make a difference. We don't get as slammed with BS as you do, and our summers get very hot (maybe that's why I can squeak by some teas). Just a note that my once-blooming wimp is The Generous Gardener (TGG) not Teasing Georgia. Teasing Georgia gets nice lanky canes and blooms a couple of times a year. Not the blooming fool that Lily describes, but a nice couple of flushes of lemon yellow. Mine I grow as free-standing bushes and neither is in ideal sun, so maybe that's part of the limitation.

Cynthia

Cynthia- I only had GG for one summer. He too was eaten by voles this past winter. I bought a replacement and we'll see how it goes. It does get hot here too. We see over 100 occasionally and have days on end int he high 90's plus humidity near 100%. I've often wondered how it can be that humid and still not rain. I usually don't judge a flower performance the first year unless it's bought either bare root or own root. It seems that the nursery potted plants flower far better their first year than anything I can achieve. I wonder if they use a super duper fertilizer to help force buds.

Sharon

Does anyone have any updates on Kordes' 'Honeymoon' climber from their arborose collection? How do you like it? I have one on order from Palatine. I'm starting to wonder though if it'll be too small for the structure I want it to climb. Maybe I'll try it on an obelisk elsewhere instead. How is the fragrance?

-Chris

I hope you get some responses ! I bought one here but it’s in too much shade and dosnt seem interested in thriving there . Its not the roses fault but I give up . I just don’t have enough sun for all the great roses here!

Any word on the move Jen ?

Hopefully if you do you can pick something out according to the light

No , we may hear some info in October but if we did get good news, most likely the first quarter of the new year. I am happy to wait patiently for something I want so badly !!