Thoroughly confused on how to prep seed bed on new lawn
smiller0808
7 years ago
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Comments (11)I mostly agree with texasweed in hesitating to till. I realize you can find hundreds of articles on that topic, but you will never find a reliable landscaper that tills before installing a garden. They always use a tractor and box blade to develop perfect drainage and seed bed. If you are in a new development, your soil was probably graded already. If you add more soil you are almost guaranteed to ruin the drainage. If you end up with water draining into the house, you are in for a long time of headaches. I'm am assuming you don't need more soil. No matter what soil the contractor left you with, it is adequate to start a lawn. Pure sand is what I use as a replacement for my lost topsoil. Sand will never be "topsoil" but it works great for grass. Removing the rocks is a good idea, but I would not go way overboard on that either. My bedrock protrudes from the surface in places and is as much as 18 inches deep at the deepest. You can't dig holes in my garden without a pick or jack hammer. But I digress. Whatever soil you are starting with is fine. It will become topsoil before you know it. As for seeding, the most I would do, assuming your soil is properly graded from the contractor, loosen the very top with a leaf rake, apply a mix of Kentucky bluegrass seed and turf-type tall fescue, roll it down with a water filled roller, and water. KBG takes a little longer to sprout than fescue so keep watering daily until the KBG comes in. Set your mower to the highest setting and mow when the grass is tall enough to be mowed. Back off on watering frequency as you can but increase the time you water. Eventually you should be watering every other week unless your part of WA is in the desert. Then during the hot part of summer you might need to water weekly. Fertilize after you have mowed the grass for the second time. You don't add weed killer unless and until you have weeds to kill. Don't worry about not having weeds. Spring seeded lawns are very susceptible to crabgrass sprouts. Keep your grass growing up tall and that will help keep the crabgrass out....See MoreNew lawn seeding and overseeding
Comments (29)>>I didn't put any fertilizer down, is that something that I should be doing?? Not yet. The seed contains all the resources the plant will require for its first month of life or so. If you go organic, feeding at seeding time is correct (it takes about a month to begin to release nitrogen and there's an extremely wide window of release). Synthetically, feeding about a month post-sprout is correct. At that point, the baby roots have grown enough to be able to gather nitrogen from the soil.What about so called "starter fertilizer"? Does it help at seeding time? I've been going milo so far this year but was thinking about dropping the Scott's starter with Mesotrione to buy me 6 weeks or so until I can put down Barricade or Dimesnsion. Figured its 2 birds with one stone......See MoreNursery bed prep
Comments (18)The only reason why I say I don't use MiracleGro soils is because during the fall, I do alot of dividing and planting up of seed plugs and I don't need very rich and nutrient high soils. My feeding regiment hits in Spring, the first grasses being cool season growers and then in late Spring, the warm season growers. As for the cultivar list, I have bought plugs trays twice, and thats all I have needed to buy in to have propagated from, unless its a patent variety (P.v. Dallas Blues for example), then I do need to pay a royalty. And to answer the lanky or over-green growth question, I say that because a lot of commercial soils now have a 3 or 5 month feeding thrown into the soil, and that is not the approach to propagating and cultivating ornamental grasses. If the soil is higher in nitrogen for instance, you will receive a growth spurt that is droopy and may pose as a seasonal problem when it comes to a mature plant. Many big grasses like Miscanthus, Panicum, Andropogon, and Cortaderia, too much nitrogen will not enable the grass to form sturdy blade and stock, and eventually a weak crown. Now, the other question to how many plugs you can get out of a gallon plant? It really depends on the grass unfortunately, because there is not set amount for each grass is differen't. For instance, Miscanthus "Rottsilber" in a gallon pot grown for one year from a plug will yield two to four divisions maybe. If the plant is grown in a gallon pot for one year, and then lanted in the ground for one more year, I will yield up to 12 or 13 divisions, but then the division start all over again in terms of time and cultivation. If there are any other questions, I would be happy to answer them....See MoreOur lawn care guys seeded my flower bed.
Comments (5)Don't use herbicide. If you have only a few other plants in the bed, cover the grassy area with several sheets of newspaper. Make sure all the area is covered, leaving maybe 3" around the crown of the perennials or the trunk of the shrubs and also the spots where your new perennials will be, wet down the paper, mulch thickly. You'll have to pull the grass from the uncovered areas by hand, but there'll be much less work. I know a place where you can get free mulch & compost & horse manure/bedding. Please email me. Good luck. :-)...See Moresmiller0808
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