Subdivision vs. Roll Over of Farm Land
skookumoose
7 years ago
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Comments (5)I'm afraid I don't have any advice for clearing trees, but I do have a somewhat related issue. I've got about 3 acres in an urban area on which I'd like to start an organic growing system. My most pressing concern right now is the field, currently covered mostly with grass. The soil has been tested to be clean and healthy, but the ground is full of rocks and chunks of concrete, some very large. In some areas, it's hard to dig more than a foot or two without hitting some sizeable rocks. The middle section of the field also floods during rains. My questions: 1) What steps do I need to take to prepare the field for planting, given all the rocks? Digging them all up by hand seems like a Herculean task. I can't afford to buy a tractor, but may be able to rent one. If I can rent one, what kind of equipment should I be looking to rent? 2) How can I increase the soil height or improve the soil drainage to prevent flooding? Dig runoff ditches maybe? The only suggestion I've heard so far is to truck in about 300 cubic meters of soil from outside sources, but this seems antithetical to an organic system. Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. And if anyone here knows what zone Shanghai, China, is, that would be helpful....See MoreNet eco cost of recycling vs tree farming
Comments (12)I have to admit that I don't know a whole lot and that I haven't "gotten out a lot", but I can comment upon what I see. First, I live in New Hampshire. The backbone of our economy is the wood products and tourism industry. Let me clear up something. A responsible forest owner, with the help of a forester, can manage an established woodland property well. By selective cutting, the health and vigor of a forest can be sustained. If you see someone with the diamond-shaped "tree farm" sign, you will notice that a tree farm isn't just rows of trees growing up just to be chopped down for paper. A well-managed woodlot should encourage recreation, aesthetics, promote wildlife diversity and population, and provide a sustainable source of wood products, while protecting forestland, open space, clean water, etc. Also, being a tree farm doesn't necessarily mean that you inflict the same harm as a commercial agriculture operation. By the way, there is a comparison between a tree farm and a forest. A well-managed tree farm can be coached along to promote certain species of trees, wildife, etc. and can contain even- or unevenly-aged trees. Such a tree farm would be a pleasure for recreational activities of any kind. I used to think like many of you that when I saw a tree being cut that it was a negative thing. However, by thinning a forest, you are promoting the healthy growth and development of the trees within. NH is heavily forested, much more so than the early 1900s etc. These forests should be put to use to product wood and non-wood forest products. Since I haven't weighed all of the pros and cons of recycling, I can't give you a complete, thought-out opinion, but I must say that wood is really a material we should use more of. At least wood is biodegradable, renewable, much more than I can say for plastics and synthetics. In addition to recycling and composting, I wonder if there would be ways of more easily tilling used paper into the soil to provide carbon for soil microbes, or putting thin shreds on the lawn for a little extra OG. Ok, just a thought. I would like to pick your brains with all of the possibilities for non-wood forest products. For example, pine needles could be used more extensively for mulch, (pine nuts????), etc. Finally, what's wrong with logging trails? Sure they look bad and destructive when logging is going on, but look at them a year or two later. Ferns or saplings will take full advantage of the new sunlight, and the animals will have a hayday feeding on new growth. Thanks, and HAPPY COMPOSTING!!!!!!! Bruce_NH...See MoreCan anyone find me the link about farmed vs. wild fish?
Comments (19)There are two separate issues here. There is the issue of food safety and wholesomeness. And there is the issue of fish stock protection and preservation. Monterey Bay Aquarium's mission is the second one and they use the first as one of the arguments to support their case. I'm interested in both issues and sympathetic to both. But, here of the food forum, I think safety and wholesomeness of what we eat is the main concern. I think it has been established that salmon raised in pens flushed by the tides with unlimited quantities of sea water and fed a carefully formulated diet are high quality fish. Wild salmon, like any other wild fish is also fine with me, but it is a notch below the farmed salmon in quality I believe. By feeding off natural organisms there is some chance of being contaminated by parasites or bacteria. Not enough to worry me much, but enough for me to prefer farmed salmon for lox and sushi. The freshness of farmed salmon is another point in its favor. There is no delay between harvesting and processing. Wild fish spend some time, maybe a little, maybe a lot, in the hold of a boat prior to being landed. Again, I am not against eating wild caught fish, but farm raised salmon can't be bear in that resepect. I do avoid pond raised catfish, tilapia and shrimp. I suspect those shallow, warm water ponds must be overcrowded and unsanitary. It's not at all like salmon pens in the North Atlantic or the North Pacific. Yet, from the point of view of the Monterey Bay Aquarium, pond raised seafood should be highly preferred. Jim...See MoreStarting an urban farm
Comments (38)not much to report in the last three months. spring planting, harvest, and sales were good. but i came down with mono and that pretty much knocked me out. talk about an energy drain. i had just enough energy to put in 200 of the tomatoes that i started, but not enough energy to stake and keep weeded. the grass took over... and that was on my plot next to my house. currently swimming in tomatoes, just none for market. my spring crop bed became my sweet potato bed (a few hundred slips), but those are for me and not for market. i had some problems with the plow not digging in properly and a wet spring / early summer meant that i never turned over the amount of ground that i had hoped to on my urban farm plot. thus no winter squash this year. but i doubt i would have had any anyway based on the weed emergence i experienced on the test ground that i did turn over out there. i got a violation notice from the city about grass height. it was well over 3' tall. in the past, a neighbor had coordinated someone to bale it, but that wasn't an option this year. i had 7 days to knock it all down. so i was out there with the tractor and a brush hog. i went over every inch of that property for the first time. i have a new appreciation for the size of the property. it took a whole weekend to finish. i ended up buying a rake and a small square baler so that i can bale it myself from now on. it won't be the prettiest stuff, but i've got very low dollars invested in it. even if just for compost, holiday display, etc. it will be better than just cutting it w/ brush hog and leaving it on field. i talked with the code compliance officer and he is more comfortable with things now that i will be taking care of the grass. as long as it's cut twice a year, everything will be good. i bought a couple adjacent lots, so closing in on having a rectangle. four lots remain. i'm in conversations with an owner of three of the lots. hope to reach an agreement to purchase those soon. the fourth will probably be offered at tax sale because of delinquent taxes in the next year or so. a great learning year so far....See Moreskookumoose
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