Soil Test Help & Lawn Renovation
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soil test results & lawn care plan--help pls!
Comments (0)Hello all, I'm a first-time poster here in the Lawn Care forum. I'm an avid gardener but still consider myself a newbie--especially when it comes to lawns. I just got the results from my soil test from my local UT Extension & would appreciate your help with developing my plan for the coming seasons. The lawn I currently have is maybe 50% common Bermuda, which I hate and would like to eliminate. The remainder is probaby 25% tall fescue which I've overseeded and tried to keep the Bermuda from choking out, and the last 25% is weeds: crabgrass, dandelions, wild strawberries, and an awful lot of purple deadnettle in the winter. I had great results from overseeding in the fall last year. But I'd like to spread pre-emergent to prevent the forest of purple deadnettle I had last year. So when should I overseed fescue relative to spreading pre-emergent? Same sort of balancing act goes for spring... I need to spread pre-emergent for general broadleaf weeds, but would also like to try (for the first time) something to suppress the Bermuda. Will fall-seeded fescue be able to stand up to those herbicides in the spring? And would a fertilization schedule (which has been recommended by my county extension) need to be altered according to these factors? FYI: Irrigation is not an option outside of extreme circumstances. I don't have the infrastructure in place, nor the funds to put it there. And to be honest, no one around me has it either and (some of) their lawns look fantastic. I'm in Middle TN, slightly northwest of Nashville, zone 6B. Soil is mostly clay, but getting better as I mulch-mow grass & leaves into the turf. (This year I've been mowing at ~3.75" which has noticeably helped the fescue.) --- Soil Test results: (Note that I selected turf type as "Lawn, Cool Season". My rationale was that I want to know what helps the fescue the most--not what helps the Bermuda the most.) Water ph - 6.5 Phosphorus - 51 (high) Potassium - 183 (high) Calcuim - 1562 (sufficient) Magnesium - 142 (sufficient Recommendations: Lime is not recommended at this time. II. Medium Level Maintenance of an established lawn. Topdress annually Sept. 1 with 6.2 lbs of 16-4-8 or (other amounts of similar-ratio ferts here... I don't need to type them all out.) per 1000 sq ft. Topdress annually Oct 15 with 3.5 lbs and Mar 1 and Apr 15 with 1.75 lbs of 34-0-0 (or other similar ratio) per 1000 sq ft. If the fertilizer contains at least 30 percent slow-release form of nitrogen, the Mar and Apr applications can be combined as one application in March. --- So, ye masters of all things lawn care... any thoughts regarding the timing of: Fall overseeding Fall application of pre-emergent (mainly targeting deadnettle) Fall applications of fertilizer recommended by my county extension Spring application of fert recommended by extension Spring pre-emergent Spring application of (something like Fusliade or Acclaim?) for Bermuda suppression And one more noobish question... how can I tell which ferts are slow-release and which are not? Thanks in advance for answering my million questions. I've already learned so much from you guys; I'm just trying to tie it all together. :-) --Jon...See MoreLawn Soil Test Results (High pH-Ca)
Comments (3)Well, since you're talking turfgrass, your options are somewhat limited. There's really no practical way to increase the OM in the soil in the near term. Keep mulch mowing. According to the folks at OSU's REAL, you're in the right range except for high pH, very low P and somewhat low K (link below to their Acceptable levels for lawns). Your dilemma is lowering pH while increasing P. First, before you take anyone's advice I would encourage you to discuss the results with your local county Ag extension agent. He/she will have local knowledge and can better steer you than about anyone else. With that as a caveat, I believe what you want is an ammonium phosphate fertilizer (e.g. MAP @ 11-52-0 or DAP @ 18-46-0 ), and then separately potassium sulfate (sulfate of potash) to bring the K in line. All should be available from local ag/farm supply or feed stores. But, don't take my word for it - talk with your county agent first. Here is a link that might be useful: Interpreting a Soil Test for Lawns...See MoreSoil test results...help with establishing lawn
Comments (13)@dchall_san_antonio: Thanks! I've never done this test, so I have no idea what I'm looking for. I'll post the 48 hour picture tomorrow night... @yardtractor1: Thanks again. I wouldn't say it's representative of my whole yard -- just the very worst area. I took about 10 samples from that ~400 sf area, each to a depth of about 3". Some pics of my lawn might help folks. Sorry if this is overkill. I'm now enjoying the conversation, though! Here's a shot of my front yard. This was SODDED by the builder when I moved in just over 2 years ago. You can see the many bare spots, dormant spots, and overall pitiful shape it's in despite 2 weeks of torrential rains and decent temps. Oh, it's North-facing, by the way. The back of my house faces almost due South. Here's a close-up of a spot in that front yard: Here's a shot down one side of my house. Like the front, it was sodded. Like the front, it's very patchy -- some areas grow fine, while others are thin, never grow above about 2" even in ideal conditions, and go dormant at the first sign of trouble: OK, this is interesting to me. Here's a shot of the very back corner of the side. It's in the way back of the picture above. This was also sodded by the builder, but the interesting thing is they ran out of sod on the first day and left this part bare. A few days later, they came back with sod that looked VERY different to me from the rest of the front/sides. This part of my lawn has really thrived. It's not a beautiful carpet like some of you have, but it's thick, grows high, stays green longer, and it spread like crazy across my barren backyard last year (you'll see that in a minute): Here's a close-up of the grass in that section: Here's a shot of my backyard. This was SEEDED by the builder. You can see how the "bottom" half looks OK -- not great, but decent. I've basically observed that healthy section of the side yard spread last fall and spring until it got to sections that it didn't "like." I know I'm personifying grass. Forgive me. But you can basically see an imaginary line where the backyard goes from "decent" to "awful". This top part is where I took all the soil samples, since I've struggled the most with it. I've spent many hours out there the past two years raking out rocks, watering, dethatching, spreading bags of soil/manure/compost, overseeding, and of course, following a "novice" fertilizing program (sporadic Milorganite and Scott's products). Much to my chagrin, it's basically been weed and clover territory, with very patchy areas of grass that never grows much higher than 1". Here's a closeup of an area from the "awful" zone -- the top half of my backyard: So there you go. Thanks again to anyone who posts with ideas or info -- much appreciated!...See MoreLawn Soil Test Companies - Minnesota
Comments (7)Proper and consistent soil sampling is a must in order to reduce inconsistencies and get the most accurate results possible. Proper: When digging the samples, use only high quality steel tools. Use only plastic buckets for holding and mixing the samples. Avoid brass, galvanized or other zinc coated utensils. Otherwise, the sample can be contaminated. If you do not have a soil sampling tool (auger or probe), insure that your soil sample is an even thickness vertical slice and not a wedge shaped slice. Take 8 samples, evenly dispersed, from each 60 x 60' area. Try not to sample any sooner than 30 -60 days after an amendment application. Consistent: Take all samples to the same depth (4" for turf) and do so each year of testing. Use the same "range" of soil for each sample and from year to year. e.g. soil from the 0" depth down to the 4" depth (preferred, but remove the soil surface and any fertilizer prills it may contain). or from 1"-4", or the 2" to 4" depth, etc. Stay consistent. Take the samples in the same month each year. Use the same lab each year. Use an established professional or university lab that offers a broad menu of testing processes, reports results in ppm or lbs/acre and at a minimum, reports CEC/TEC, Ca, Mg, P, S, K, Na, OM, Mn, Zn and Cu. Verify that they offer ammonium acetate cation and buffer pH testing and that their fees are reasonable. Verify if they use Mehlich III as their default extractant and extra points if they offer Bray and Olsen too. Do the vinegar test on a small sample. If it fizzes, request that an ammonium acetate test be performed. If it doesn't fizz, either ask for or be prepared to request that (if the test comes back with a soil pH less than 6) a buffer pH test be done. I would encourage you to read this whole thread for additional information: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/4535255/taking-soil-samples-for-lab-analysis-get-your-moneys-worth?n=14...See MoreUser
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