Help deciding on which TTTF blend
owlnsr
7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago
I am preparing for my renovation this year.
I have come across two blends and I am having difficulty settling on which one I want
Southern Belle Blend
Has a blue tag / certified (Oregon ...) with no weed seeds. However, it has 3 cultivars that I don't know anything about.
--- Raptor III
--- Titanium LS
--- Firecracker SLS
All three of these are listed as "promising" on the Virginia Tech TTTF cultivar list for 2016-2017 (http://www.pubs.ext.vt.edu/CSES/CSES-17/CSES-17_pdf.pdf).
Jonathan Green has its three Black Beauty TTTFS, including:
- Dakota
- Tonto
- Montana
Dakota is on the "recommended" list of TTTF by Virginia Tech (which ranks higher than the 'promising') for 2016-2017.
Montana was on the "recommended" list on 2015-2016 but has since been removed.
The blend has a weed seed count, but it had a smaller "Other Crop" count than the other blend. (I'm more worried about Other Crop than weeds, though.)
When I began my renovation planning, it was with the intention to use the Jonathan Green seed. I did some experiments with it early in the spring and I was impressed.
However, the Southern Belle other blend has caught my eye and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with Raptor III, Firecracker or Titanium.
I can't decide :-P
I am in the transition zone (Richmond/Chesterfield, VA).
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Dr. Drill
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help me make seed choice. kbg or tttf???
Comments (7)NC Lawn Nut, The new Elite KBG are very tough when it comes to heat and drought tolerance. My research and experience with KBG vs Fescue has been very favorable. My lawn is on a High Maintenance schedule, so I expect a lot out of it. If I wanted the same results out of Fescue, I'll be very disappointed. KBG is not for the masses, Fescue is for the most part in the transsition zone. I don't grow Fescue because with my maintance schedule I get MUCH better results with KBG. Af far as water usage, I've only water my lawn 3 times so far this summer to my neighbor's Zoysia 7 times. His lawn looks good and green with some winter damage (still) but not dark green like mine right now, and then it turns brown in the Fall and does not fully come back until May or early June. I don't concider KBG a water-hog, you need to train the grass roots to grow deep in the soil by letting the grass go thru a temporary drought period. Just for testing purposses, I let one side of my yard with NOT water to see the results. After record high temperatures in early June and lack of consistant rainfall, my Monostand of Midnight II started to go off color and dormant. Rain came and it greened back up to about 90%. Then it rained again a few days later, and today is about 99% green with no additional care. My neighbors Fescue lawn with the same care is about 85% green today despite rainfall. There's no doubt wether or not KBG grows in your area, it does. The question is: Do I want Fescue or Bluegrass? You decide. To me, the answer is very clear....See Moretttf vs tttf
Comments (29)SOMEONE PUT ME AT EASE.. I've got the green haze look. But, am pretty concerned. ...it's coming in uneven. I'm got some area where there is clearly green sprouts, and then other areas where just dirt. It seems like all the green are in patches where the straw is a little thicker, and then some patches of little to no straw where I have no germination. I'm wondering if I got washed out, and the areas of thicker straw held up better and also caught the seed of other areas ? BTW, I don't think it could be because of the typical straw holding moisture better. We've had enough rain where the ground has stayed consistently wet. (Almost too much) Tiemco? Anyone else? The only positive idea I can think of is that the straw incubated the seed a bit and helped hold temps and it is germinating faster. I'm at day 12....See Morerecommendations for blending the stripe between KBG and tttf
Comments (6)This scenario is probably as old as lawns. Alot of people have tried overseeding different grass types and cultivars into a healthy established lawn in an attempt to change the character or color. I've never heard of a success story. That doesn't seem to stop us from trying. I guess it's the same part of the psyche that makes for the prolifferation so so many casinos around the country--the outcome will be different for me. The overseed just can't compete with the existing turf for sunlight, water and nutrients and fails. KBG is a real poor preformer in overseeding because it is expecially slow to germinate (3-4 weeks) so even in a case where the extablished lawn is scalped before overseeding, it grows back fast enough to shade the new seed. Attempting to keep the lawn short can injure or displace the new seed. New seed needs water and should be accompanied with a starter fertilizer, both are going to create a surge in existing lawn growth. You may have slightly better results with overseeding with fescue due to it's shorter germination (2 weeks). If it's any consulation, I'm going to be overseeding my 60% Midnight KBG lawn with Midnight again this year in the hopes of increasing the %. I've done this for three years and although I can't say I've seen any dramatic changes--I just know It'll be different this year and I'm sure it'll work out this time. This post was edited by grass1950 on Sat, Aug 10, 13 at 9:42...See MoreHelp - Decide which fabric for MBR drapes!
Comments (21)It's a done deal - in 2 weeks I will have my panels on rings made out of the taffeta - thanks to all who helped me think this through. This was a big expense for me so I wanted to make sure I got it right. Texas and Decorpas - the comforter is a burgundy red I guess. I am going to try to find a summer quilt - maybe a deep ivory or teal will work for the summer. I do have a lot of the pillows that go with that comforter so I could use them elsewhere. Next purchase is a new chair so I can get rid of the pink one. My basement is filling up - my kids need to get married and take some of these things off my hands! I am also deciding what window treatment material to put in the bathroom. The silk supply owner did a template and they will be a custom soft pelmet arch over each window that mirrors the arch already in there between the pillars. I am deciding between a mocha, driftwood, or sand color. Too many decisions but I won't bore you all with that one. So thanks again!!...See Moreowlnsr
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7 years agoWhere did you get 2015 Tall Fescue data for Blacksburg VA? I only see 2014 listed on the NTEP website.
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