I grow both, and have for a long time.

In the winter, Mme. Lambard steals my heart with a bounty of incredible blooms -- when not much else is producing. In spring and summer, she is plagued with constant mildew. I should move her to where I don't have to look at her ten times a day.

G. Nabonnand, OTOH, never has disease problems.

This rose blooms beautifully, spring and fall (not much in hot summer) The blooms are beyond lovely, delicate, lightly-petalled and opalescent. I am unsure how it would stand up to your firey heat.

I sort of wonder if either of these is right for your very unique conditions. Maybe you would fare better with something like 'Maman Cochet,' 'Niles Cochet', or 'White Maman Cochet'.???

Right now I am growing Maman Cochet, Baronne Henriette de Snoy ( which did not seem to really grow until it became hot), Clementinea Carbonieri, Lady Hillingdon, Mrs B.R. Cant, Mme. Antoine Mari, Mlle. Franziska Kruger, Rhodologue Jules Gravereaux, Madame Joseph Schwartz, Duchesse de Brabant, Mlle. de Sombreuil ( ones I can think of of the top of my head) and they are performing well; especially for babies in the ground. I know that there are Phoenix gardeners who rave about Tea roses, and because overall, they deal with more Summer heat than I do here, combined with my experiences thus far, I have been drawn to this class of rose. I just have not read any specific performance info. regarding these two varieties from those gardeners, but nonetheless, am willing to purchase one of them. What do you perceive is different about these two roses that could be incompatible with the climate here, Jeri? I am concerned about your description of G.N.'s petals being lightly petaled and delicate.. that could be problematic

I love the Tea roses I have, but the best performer among all my roses - A young Blush Noisette (loaded with buds) - all day SUN... image..early August 2016

I love Madame Lambard. I don't have the mildew problems that Jerri has. I do have G. Nabonnad in a pot (I received it as a mystery rose from RVR), So i can't attest to what it would look like fully grown. But it is just pink, while Madame Lambard has very changeable bloom color, which I love.

Thank you for the color description, Buford. I had not thought about and need to consider the changeable bloom color of Madame Lombard.... It could be all wrong for the space, but, is sooo beautiful at times!

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.131349

I picked G. Nabonnand because of the delicate color and wonderful bloom texture-- but mostly because it isn't a thorny devil.

Since I'm growing Mrs. B R Cant AND Le Vesuve I deserve to have at least one tea that won't leave scars...!

The heat here is intense and humid (SE VA). I would grow any of the Cochets Jeri recommends if I could but double the blooms would open here.

What are the roses you already have that will be close to the new tea?

Wow that G. Nabonnand is gorgeous, Jeri.

This is so tough. I cannot find a formula to help me select Tea roses, or maybe I just need to understand more about this class of rose. Mme. Antoine Mari, and Baronne Henriette de Snoy were roses I was unsure about, but they are performing very well. Lady Hillingdon is going to be shovel pruned or re-homed if I can convince an in-law in Camarillo to accept her. The problem with LH is the color holding up in the heat. I expect blooms to be smaller; as they all are if they dare bloom during the heat of Summer, but LH blooms are pure white now, and it is next to Darlow's Enigma and Marie Pavie, so I do not need another white rose in that area. It is difficult for a novice relative to this class of rose to find consistencies that could be an indicator as to whether or not a rose will perform well or horribly, and the indicators I have used for closer to two decades for modern roses just doesn't seem to apply.

I've grown only Madame Lambard and she's been completely clean for me. There is a color variation but it's not extreme and for me adds to the charm of this rose.

Desertgarden, I really wish that you could visit the Sacramento City Cemetery. That's a place where you could see MANY fully-mature Tea Roses. Moreover, they are grown in a climate that (while less-hot-dry than yours) is at least a lot hotter in summer than I am here near the SoCal coast, or than folks in most of the Bay Area experience.

And Ingrid should be one of your best resources, because she DOES have a desert environment.

But one thing to keep in mind . . . Most of the Teas I have lived with over a long period of time DO change color. They change to a greater-or-lesser degree, but they mostly are changeable.

That is probably PART of why I quit worrying about what color is near what color a long time ago.

I am growing both since 1/16 and am delighted with both. I think the more saturated color and greater petal count might make Mme Lombard the winner here.

As much as I love the look etc. of both roses , my order will include Mme Lombard. Thank you all for helping me make this choice.

Funny you mention Sacramento Cemetery , Jerri. It was part of our itinerary last month as we traveled from Reno, west through Sacramento, on our way to wine country, then the CA coast. We were running behind schedule, I convinced myself that July was not a good time to tour the cemetery, and penciled in an April visit during their annual event. I think the reality is that neither of us wanted to be out in the sun walking around in 100 degree temperatures. I do believe that a visit to the cemetery will be one of those "changing" events for me as a person recently captivated by the OGR's, and your comment is making me more committed to a visit.

Truthfully, I have not been there in the height of a hot summer.

But I HAVE visited in spring, fall, and the "dead" of winter, and in rain and sun. It's beautiful in all of those moods, so I do hope you get to go.