Help with kitchen Layout, complete remodel!
Hi,
My wife and I decided that we want to completely redo our kitchen. We want to change the layout to maximize the utility of the kitchen and we really need some help in designing the layout (a lot). We have a cabinet maker on standby so we don't have to go "standard". We are willing to do a major reno, thus removing/moving walls around.
Just for your info, we thought we had a good layout, but quickly realized on Houzz that the layout would not be possible. http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/3939603/100-custom-kitchen-design-feedback-appreciated-solid-walnut-slabs#17605740
A must -- Landry room/mud room can't change (but entrance can). We want casual sitting for 4 people / a large prep surface for baking / and room for all the appliances (they have been chosen but not purchased). Keep in mind that the furniture in these pictures are not our current furniture.
Before Kitchen
This is the current dinning room (behind the wall where the oven is)
This is the current office which is located behind the fridge wall.
As for the rest of the ground floor,
you have the main entrance and living room below:
The current plans and dimension are as follows:
The only thing I really had trouble drawing were the stairs for the basement. They are under the stairs to go up, but they start just outside the dinning room. Please see picture; (office in front, dinning room to the right, kitchen top right, bathroom top left and stairs to basement on the left.
What we want (about us)
We are a family of 4 that loves to cook and bake. We want the kitchen to be a central spot where I can cook while the kids do their homework or eat breakfast. The house is on a hill and have a fabulous view towards the south.
Appliances: 36 gas cooktop / 30 double oven / 32 double sink / mini bar fridge / 34x30 deep fridge.
I'm really looking for functional kitchen.
We are willing to consider removing the wall between the dinning room and kitchen and moving the structural wall into the office by about 3 feet.
Thanks for your help!
Comments (18)
rebunky
7 years agolast modified: 7 years ago
PROJAN MOYER
7 years agoRelated Discussions
Need help with layout for kitchen remodel
Comments (12)Sorry, I meant to say den, not family room. There are beams in the attic and those walls were framed in below. We will verify it, of course, but the seller built the house and told us that the walls between the kitchen and den and the wall between the kitchen and dining room are not load bearing walls. They were in the early stages of planning their own kitchen renovation when a job transfer derailed their plans. I have considered moving the kitchen into the den area, but I wondered if that would drive the cost of the renovation up to a point that we can't afford. I'm not sure if we'd gain much wall space, due to the fireplace wall and the glass doors. I could be completely wrong, though, which is why I'm here looking for feedback, so thank you!...See MoreComplete kitchen remodel - Please help!
Comments (24)funkycamper, I see you're point with the fridge location. I'm totally open to making the swap. Actually, we're pretty open to just about any great ideas that make sense! The island is located where it is in the drawings only because of where the columns will need to be once the wall comes down. Again, I'm open to any suggestions as to how else we might be able to handle the support columns that won't detract from the function/look of the space. I thought about swapping the living and dining rooms but thought it would be strange to walk in the front door directly into the dining room with a large dining table right at the front of the house. I'm going to play around with the design program some more today and try switching the island orientation and swapping the oven & fridge and see how my wife feels about those changes. Other than what's been suggested, how does the rest of the layout look? You all have also made me very curious about the swap of the kitchen and dining room. I still think that would be a much more difficult, lengthy and costly option, but I'd like to at least look into how that might work. Does anyone have an idea for a quick layout as to how that swap would look with all the zones properly organized? Thank you all!...See MoreComplete Kitchen remodel and need suggestions on ideal layout.
Comments (15)Everything is flexible except the island. It isn't a question of just wanting one but as physical requirement for functionality. It doesn't matter how pretty a room is if it isn't functional. I got hurt in a car accident and after 5 years and 18 surgical procedures on my back I have to have an island I can customize to my needs because I just can't stand for hours on a hard floor anymore. However, thank you to everyone for shaking me to my senses. Sometimes you just can't shave the corners off to make a square peg fit a round hole. I really do know better. The family business involved every phase of real estate from pour the foundation to warehousing the mortgage loans. Unfortunately the family member that could always get me to move past a mental block has already passed away. I am about to get even with my husband for changing my color scheme that eliminated the sink I wanted. The sink and the island were the two things on my list and I am not about to spend a large amount of money and do the majority of the labor and not get at least one of the things I want. Therefore, there is only one solution. I can't steal the extra width from the office/library, therefore I have put a call into friend of mine that is a contractor to give me a ballpark price on drying in an addition. I can take it from there. So let's see if I can knock out three birds with one stone. I need a master suite, the deck needs to be replaced AND the kitchen enlarged. The blue line is a possible outside wall location:When the foundation is poured for the addition, I will have them pour enough for a patio to replace the deck. Then the roof for the addition can also extend to cover the patio. I already have plans for a new deck drawn up so I know where all the plumbing and electrical needs to be for the outdoor living room and kitchen. Here is a closer picture of the available square footage and possible addition:As for the kitchen, it can be completely gutted and everything moved. I bumped the outside wall out 8 feet but if anybody has a brilliant idea that needs more room the line is easy to adjust. I have one shot at this because I won't change it again other than paint or drapes. Since I will have to make adjustments to the roof line, I should be able to fix the ceiling height. Since any window would open out onto a covered patio, a skylight may not be a bad idea to bring in light. I mainly use upper cabinets for anything I need regularly. Since I can now access all the room I need I will bump the base cabinets up to 30" depths. Necessities in the kitchen: 1. ISLAND 2. Wall Oven (So it can be raised high enough to be easy for me to get things in and out of it. Currently, I have the microwave above the oven.) 3. Door going to the outside (I use it for ventilation and the storm door has a door for the dogs in it.) 4. Dishwasher on right hand side of a 33" double sink. 5. Upper cabinet within reach of the dishwasher for a short person. 6. Enlarge the little bathroom enough for a pedestal sink and have a door that opens into the kitchen (that way there is a restroom available close to the patio for when we have company). 7. 36" Cook top 8. Refrigerator The room directly below the kitchen used to be a two car garage that somebody closed in but just put carpet down instead of actually putting in a floor with insulation. The floor is about two feet lower than the kitchen floor. I use the 5'x9' closet for a lot of my storage including all the vegetables I can from the garden. I could move the closet to opposite the washer and dryer to create a laundry room/walk in pantry and the current exterior door could be the main entrance. By doing this addition I have to address the entrance from the garage to the kitchen. We normally park the car, walk down the side of the house and go in the sliding glass door right above the kitchen. Having to go around that addition would be a long hike carrying in groceries. After that all the square footage left over can be used for the master suite. I thought about converting the three bedrooms on the main level into a master suite and have all the extra bedrooms downstairs but it is never a great idea to reduce the number of bedrooms if it can be avoided. So I just have to figure out how to get the suite to fit in the space available.At least this way I can have roughly a 20'x20' bedroom with 10 foot ceilings so it is in scale with the bedroom furniture. Yep, my husband is going to really wish when I showed him the granite slab I wanted that he said, "That looks wonderful dear. Would you like me to go pick up that copper sink for you?"...See More100% custom Kitchen design - feedback appreciated (solid Walnut slabs)
Comments (86)HI, I ended moving it 36 inches and I now have 54 inches between the wall and the counter/stools. The island counter is 51 inches and the space between the counter and the cooktop is 40 5/8 inches To note, the counters next to the concrete wall are 25 1/4 inches...See More
Andre-Luc Bisson
7 years agoStan B
7 years agopractigal
7 years agoAndre-Luc Bisson
7 years agojmarino19
7 years agoAndre-Luc Bisson
7 years agoHi Everyone,
I think there is some confusion regarding the traffic of the house. Of course there is the main entrance at the top of the plan near the stairs, but this is only for guests. The main entrance is on the side as shown here;
I also think these bird eye pictures help too
- PRO
JAN MOYER
7 years ago practigal
7 years agoAndre-Luc Bisson
7 years agoHi,
I have hired a professional designer and she will be seeing the house today. I will be putting up the draft layout she will be providing for your feedback.
In the meantime (more for curiosity sake) I have added some of the old plans that didn't make the cut. l.
Before everyone starts criticizing/asks, I am aware that traffic flow is an issue for many of these plans.
Andre-Luc Bisson
7 years agoHi Everyone, (HELP!)
These are the plans I got from the designer; (and I hate them) The one on the left is NOT acceptable. I have no plans in loosing the office. I just don't quite know how to respond. To me, it feels like they never did a kitchen.
cpartist
7 years agoAndre-Luc Bisson
7 years agopractigal
7 years agocpartist
7 years agoAndre-Luc Bisson
7 years agoHi,
I know it's been a while since my last post, but I have finally finished the kitchen.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
cpartist