A new online nursery? Or....

7 years ago

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Is this new online nursery a legitimate one?

http://tvnfd.szdhg.servertrust.com/default.asp

I stumbled across them through Help Me Find. Has anyone ordered from them before? Their website looks eerily similar to the antiqueroses.com place that turned out to be bogus.

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roseguy

7 years ago

My name is Don Rogers, my wife, Jan and I own A Reverence For Roses Inc. I wish to thank Linda Perry for her kind words and letting me know of this discussion. A little background about us. My wife wanted a rose garden, I had been retired for 11 years and needed a purpose in my life. We attended a rose lover's gathering at Angel Garden's in the spring of 2011. We enjoyed what we learned from Pam and got further insight into the history of different rose varieties and species. At that meeting we were introduced to Gene Waering and purchased a book titled "The Sustainable Rose Garden". Gene invited us to GROW East, where Ruth Knopf was honored. We enjoyed meeting Pat Shanley and many others associated with roses. Now starting the first 6 months with this type of exposure to so many fine people elevated our enthusiasm.

Ralph Moore at some point signed a copy of his book titled "All About Miniature Roses" . I purchased the used book online ( not knowing it was signed ), absorbed what he so openly shared and thought if he was active at the age of 100 then I had 40 years ahead of me ( one has to aim high in life to hit high). We joined 3 rose societies, one being the Central Florida Heritage Rose Society. CFHRS gave us more exposure to the world of Heritage Roses and OGR's. Jan and I were two enablers soaking up knowledge and buying dozens of plants at a time. She was going to have her garden, I now had a purpose in life.

Now space started to become a problem, hiding several hundred plants in the back yard of a deed restricted community required clever placement of the pots. We decided that this garden would need more space. We found 9 acres with an old oak tree that my wife fell in love with. It also had a "house", which I spent the next year, six days per week renovating into a home, then we moved in.

The following 6 months were devoted to establishing a rose garden of some 5-600 plants and building 3 arbors some 96' long each. Did I tell you that I like climbers ? This garden was planted in preparation for a stop on a bus tour by members of the Heritage Rose Foundation for the conference held in 2013 in Lakeland, FL. By this time we knew that we wanted to do our small part to become a source for roses to allow another generation to enjoy the many historic varieties. This summer we hope to finish the 3rd expansion of the garden.

Plans slowly evolved as to how propagation would be done and then construction was carried out, finishing last spring. Propagation began last summer and web site development started in November. I have always found roses to be rewarding , website development, not so much.

I would like to explain the out of ordinary web address. When I decided on the business name I wanted something that expressed the feeling my wife and I have towards roses, Reverence seemed appropriate. Then the company name was established and I knew very soon that I was going to cause confusion to anyone that I talked to for the first time, especially on the telephone. A Reverence For Roses, the person on the other end of the phone always said "What ?". I then started gathering web addresses with what I thought might be variations of Reverence. This led to roughly 6 addresses. To get all of these addresses to the proper site they had to be linked ( I have no clue how they do it ) thus we ended up with. http://tvnfd.szdhg.servertrust.com/Default.asp Now however if you use http://www.areverenceforroses.com it also takes you to our site as will a handful of variations of this.

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belmont8
7 years ago
Sounds like they are in Florida, while Antique Roses is supposedly in New Jersey. Plus, they list a phone number while AR did not.

The offerings look interesting but there are not many hardy things for me.
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7 years ago
Yes, and they list sizes, and it looks like they're a paying member of HelpMeFind. I also did a Google map search, and an aerial view of the property makes it look like there are rows of plants being grown. Maybe they are for real. A new vendor for old roses would be great.
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lindaperry_9b
7 years ago
They're for real, a couple by the name of Donald and Janice Rogers, "call us Don or Jan" per their introductory email, wherein they also describe how their "out-of-control hobby" led to a collection of 900 plants of 600 rose varities and this new business, A Reverence for Roses. They say they're certificated to sell to all 50 states and will be adding roses for sale over time, including some varieties not presently in commerce. I have actually ordered and promptly received three lovely, healthy bands of The Bishop (the Gallica), Marchioness of Lorne, and Souvenir de Francois Gaulain, ordered 4/22, shipped 4/25 and delivered to me in Fort Bragg, CA on 4/27.

Our communication by email was quick and courteous, and I wish them all the best (as I do all the intrepid folks keeping us supplied with these delights!)

Pretty darned satisfied!

Linda
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Rosefolly
7 years ago
This is indeed very good news. Thanks for calling this to our attention.
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7 years ago
Linda, I'm so glad you posted about your satisfactory experience. They have a few roses I'm interested in, although I have busted my rose-buying budget (not hard to do!) for the time being. But perhaps in the fall...?

I wonder if it would be too much trouble to leave a review of this brand new nursery so that other HMF users who see their listings will feel confident that they're a legitimate new business and worth supporting?

http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=17.24462&tab=32

Thanks bellegallica and Linda for sharing info about this new nursery. I wish them well!

Virginia
lindaperry_9b
7 years ago
Dear Virginia, thanks for the suggestion and the link to post a comment on HMF. (What a treasure, what a fabulous treasure that resource is!) From having lurked both there and here on gardenweb for some time, I believe I've learned that you are involved as an administrator at HMF and I'm happy to get a chance to say thanks to YOU for that wonderful work and to the others doing it as well. (Hope your rose budget tries to keep up with you, and mine does, too!)

Linda
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7 years ago
I'm totally out of space, but I couldn't resist placing a small order.
I see they're the only source for Cato's Cluster now that Vintage is
gone, so I got that one as well as a band of Maggie. Luxrosa has
written some wonderful things about Cato's.
Michael H 6b NY
7 years ago
I came across their site a few days ago and thought it was beautifully constructed and the photographs were crisp. I'll place a small order as well this week.. fingers crossed!
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
7 years ago
They have a rose I've been looking for. Did anyone order just one rose? What did u pay for shipping?
Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a
7 years ago
I ordered two bands this morning, and shipping was $14. I also got a notice that they shipped already!
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7 years ago
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Same here. I ordered in the wee hours of the morning, and already received a shipping notice. Shipping was about the same for me, and I don't think it increased when I added a second band, so I'm guessing they can ship a certain number of bands for the same price?

Rates would probably be cheaper for you, sultry, since you're in the same state. But you could do a test cart to see how much it would be.

What did you order, Brittie?
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
7 years ago
Wow thats speedy service lol.
Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a
7 years ago
I didn't order any antiques this time, but did pick up Triple Delight and Louise Estes. I've never heard of the former, so that ones a shot in the dark, but I've wanted to try Louise for a while now and she's hard to find. I'm excited!
Michael H 6b NY
7 years ago
I just went to place my order for 2 bands and the shipping was listed at $32!! And there was tax charged even though I am in NY not NJ.. I'm holding off for now, did anyone else encounter this? I know Brittie mentioned it was $14 for 2 bands to texas and I'm just one state over..
AquaEyes 7a NJ
7 years ago
I think they're talking about A Reverence for Roses in Florida, not Antique Roses in NJ. I sent the NJ nursery an email asking about pick-up, since they're just under an hour away. I never got a response. And so, I never placed an order.

:-)

~Christopher
Michael H 6b NY
7 years ago
Oh, thank you so much Chris! You saved me from what could have been a really bad experience. I will check out A Reverence now.
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7 years ago
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Yes, it's definitely A Reverence for Roses (the first link) you want to order from. NOT the Antique Roses place. I would remove the second link if I could, but it looks like we're not allowed to edit the original post.

I hope no one else has made the same mistake.
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7 years ago
Linda, I really appreciate that you took the time to leave a review, and I'm sure the nursery folks and their potential customers will too.

bellegallica, "Cato's Cluster" definitely got my attention since I hadn't seen it offered elsewhere. It's good to hear that Luxrosa has a good opinion of it, and I hope it does as well for you.

Virginia
Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a
7 years ago
I received my roses already, and they really look great. Nice sized and healthy.
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
7 years ago
I placed an order as well. Shipping was only 8 something for in state (FL). Really excited :)
Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a
7 years ago
Here they are. The left is Louise Estes and the right is Triple Delight.
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
7 years ago
Oh wow those look nice for bands. I ordered MAC to replace the one that froze in the mail from another company. Its been sold out almost everywhere so I was glad to find it. I love buying plants from FL because they have no adjustment period..they just go lol.
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7 years ago
I don't have pictures, but mine arrived today as well, and they look great.
Robin Lemke
7 years ago
I'm thinking of ordering Triple Delight also, because the pictures look so beautiful, but I can't find information on this rose anywhere else. Does anyone have any info about it? I'm in zone 8b near Seattle and worry a little how the thin petals will do in my rain. Also, is it strange to just have a rose for sale in one place?
fig_insanity Z7b E TN
7 years ago
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Thank YOU, Don and Jan. With the rate at which rose nurseries are dying off, it's a relief and a blessing to see one starting up. We'll do our best to support you. After all, a junkie needs his dealer, lol.
Robin Lemke
7 years ago
Thank you so much for this lovely insight into your work! I thoroughly enjoyed reading it and am perusing your website now!
A_ Church_Florida Z9
7 years ago
Don,

I'm happy to hear of another rose nursery, but I found your site very hard to navigate since things are buried within other things and you have to use both top and bottom navigation to find them. I used to do web design and would often tell my business clients that easy access was much more important than aesthetics. Some information on the size of your plants ( I learned they were bands from this thread) and exactly where you're located would be extremely helpful for people trying to estimate shipping, etc. (many of us only have so much rose money to spend and would like to know what we're getting into before clicking BUY). Plus, as a Florida resident, I would love to know how close you are to me.
roseguy
7 years ago
A_Church,

Thank you for your comments. I added a "Calculate Shipping" option based upon valuable feedback that I received several weeks ago. It is located in the shopping cart so that you only need a zip code and at least 1 plant selected to see our shipping costs. We strive to keep the shipping very reasonable as we are aware as to how quickly it can add up from some nurseries.

The navigation was setup to allow use of the drop down menus at the top of the page for rose selection. We included an alphabetical list for those looking for a particular variety and drop down menus under Heritage/Old Garden Roses, Modern Roses, etc.

Prices are under each rose and it can be added to the cart by clicking on the photo to allow a selection of plant size, which we hope to offer in the future.

We now show the physical address on the bottom right of the home page based upon your feedback.

Thank you once again, Don Rogers, A Reverence For Roses Inc
A_ Church_Florida Z9
7 years ago
Excellent. I noticed you're on Lecanto Highway. I used to live in Homosassa and would frequent a wonderful nursery on Lecanto Highway outside Inverness called Colortime. I believe they closed a year or so ago, much to my dismay, as they had a great selection of plants, including a lot of old roses. Are you anywhere near there?
roseguy
7 years ago
We are 7/10 of a mile from the intersection of State Road 41 and CR 491 (N Lecanto Hwy). Located on N Lecanto Hwy, we would be on the East side of SR 41. We are North of Inverness and East of Beverly Hills,

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