Sheet Mulch Causing Poor Drainage in Raised Beds?
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need drainage help for my mulch bed/front yard
Comments (16)Hi, folks. Apologize for taking so long to post the pics of my drainage problem, but would appreciate further feedback, now that I have uploaded my photos. Really would prefer to forego the idea of a rain garden. Feel that it would really ruin the appearance of my lawn layout as it is now. Been thinking about my issue further and wondering if circling my mulch island with retaining bricks to make it like a raised bed would help out at all. It might keep the water run-off out, but the water would still flow across and down my lawn, I suppose. Been also contemplating if I might somehow create a dry creek for the section of lawn that has much of the water run-off, but I think it would just look horrendous stretching across my front lawn. I feel like I'm screwed with this issue, unless I spend big bucks to regrade and reseed the lawn; money which I certainly don't have. This first pic is looking at the water flowing into the back side of the island: This next pic is looking at the water flowing over the front side of the island. Note that the neighbor's yard slopes down towards mine, and the water run-off begins in the area just right of the front corner of my house, straight down into the island: This next pic is looking at the water run-off across the lawn. The front of the island is seen in the background. So, the water exits the front edge of the island and then comes down a few more feet and then flows all across the bottom of the lawn before crossing over the sidewalk and into the grassy strip along the curb, which is badly washed out and contains just weedy growth and rocks. This last pic shows a similar problem at a smaller mulch island around my lamp post at the front corner of the driveway. No problem with noticeable water run-off in this lawn area per se, but water does collect in the edge of the island just due to the slope of the lawn here....See MoreTar paper mulch between raised beds--yes or no??
Comments (13)Container garden and any excess when it rains. I'm wanting to build a garden space that sits above drainfield. It will need to have its water diverted away from drainfield area. That's where tar paper would have come in. I would have placed it on the 3 foot paths between the septic lines. There is a natural slope in the yard and I will use that to bring water to opposite side of yard and create a catchment area- maybe, or use it, the water, in some other way....See MoreHelp for Too Much Drainage in Raised Beds
Comments (5)Are the beds on the ground & 36 inches deep? Or are they 6-18 deep on legs, like a table? If they are in ground then you need to mix in clay, coco coir or some other organic matter that holds water. If it is on legs, then I would fix a sheet of clear plastic to one side of the bottom, then pull tight across the bottom & fix the other side. But not the ends, so it can drain. This would slow water lose,after a time you can remove it if the bed it too wet or stop watering. You would be treating the bed as a container in both examples. As for covering seeds & seedlings, I am with wayne 5, damp peat moss. Love to see photos!...See MoreStagnant clay soil, poor drainage question
Comments (7)Hi Y'all, Clay, hmmm, imagine finding clay in Edmond, Oklahoma. I thought ALL the clay in Oklahoma was here at my house. :) It seems like you face dual issues: soil improvement and drainage, although they are related. DRAINAGE: Do you know how quickly that stagnant clay does or does not drain? Does it hold water for days? Weeks? Does it EVER dry out completely? And how far down is the sopping wet soil? If it is just a few inches down, say 4" or 6", I don't think I'd try raising veggies there without a raised bed. On the other hand, if it is 18" or 24" down, you can probably amend the upper layers of clay enough to raise veggies without building a raised bed. And, no, excavating the clay and dumping good topsoil into the "hole" left behind isn't really a great ideal. When you do that, you are essentially raising a garden in a non-draining "container" full of soil, 'cause that clay is going to hold the water and keep your topsoil wet for a long, long time. It is better to keep the clay you have and amend it. Clay is very fertile and rich in minerals. It makes great soil once amended. And earthworms love it once it has organic material in it for them to munch on. SOIL IMPROVEMENT: If you buy a load of topsoil, be careful. A lot of people sell junk clay and junk sand that aren't good for anything and call them "top soil". I wouldn't buy "topsoil" from anyone who couldn't tell me approximately how much of it was sand, clay, silt, organic material, etc. I have bought a 50/50 mix of native soil/compost (but down in Texas and not here in Oklahoma) and it was incredibly good veggie growing soil. You will have to add lots of organic material the first year: peat moss, compost, manure, finely shredded bark, etc. After that, though, you can maintain the bed by what I call "lasagna mulching"...just add whatever you think the bed needs each year to the top of the bed, cover with something like hay, straw or shredded bark mulch that won't wash away, and let the worms do their thing. Some people add sand to clay, and it is a matter of hot debate on the Soil Forum as to whether or not it is a good idea. I did add some sand to improve drainage, but I wouldn't have added a little sand had I not added a LOT of organic material. RAISED BEDS: I prefer them, especially for tomato plants. However, if you add 6 or 8" of organic material to the area where your mom wants to have her herbs and veggies, you will find that all the material HAS raised the level of the soil above the existing grade and you've basically created a raised bed, although I guess it is really just a mounded bed. And there is nothing wrong with that. BTW, I prefer the "lasagna garden" method for building raised beds too. I wish Pat Lanza had written her 2 books a couple of decades ago before I spent all those years double-digging and amending soil at my previous home. Finally, if all your mom wants is a small number of tomato and pepper plants, there is always the option of raising them in large containers, and putting clay-loving herbs in the ground. Dawn...See Moretheparsley
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