What NOT to put in Vegetable & Bone Broth?
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Just made bone broth on ham hocks; need your thoughts.
Comments (10)Else, don't toss it out! I make soup beans and hamhocks for DH (ok, and myself!) that takes 2 days... 1 day for the ham stock, 1 day for the soup beans. This is a very Southern way to cook soup beans, and adds layers of flavor. This was very new to me, but after much practice, I've found the ham hocks and bones add better flavor than a meaty hambone. I only use this stock for my old fashioned soup beans. I've never used smoked hamhocks, and never simmered 48 hours (usually 6-10 hours), and the veg I add are the same (no vinegar) plus bay leaves as you used. Also whole peppercorns and parsley, and yes, it's then strained. The broth is a medium brown and perfect to cook a large pot of Great Northern Beans... the saltiness in the broth seasons the beans (I can't abide beans with no seasoning). I clean, then soak the beans overnight, drain, and add the hamhock stock to the beans, covering plus 2 inches. Also toss in chopped onions, chopped carrots, minced garlic, celery, and of course put the ham meat back in to your stock pot. Bring to a boil, reduce to a simmer for 3-5 hours. Do not add salt of course, but prior to serving fresh cracked pepper to taste. I also use a potatoe masher and mash some of the beans for thickness, or you can add a bit of water/flour to thicken. If you've an instant pot, you can greatly reduce your time. I actually add another layer of flavor but I'd be kicked off GW for good! It's just a rich gravy added 30 minutes before serving : ) Now, not sure if the stock is workable after 48 hours of simmering, but I'd give it a try! I don't think the smoke flavor will hurt, and may add some depth. Worth a shot... : ) Oh, for 4 ham hocks' worth of stock, I use 1 lb great northern beans. Add water if needed....See MoreBeef bones and broth
Comments (26)Jasdip, My beef stock/broth is not made by the traditional methods, but it works for me. I hit upon it my accident. When I have time, I like to cook a shoulder roast on top of the stove instead of the crock pot. (Shoulder roast here is like a chuck roast, but with less fat.) It is a pot roast, not an oven roast. I brown the roast on all sides (6), and add quite a bit of water. Bring to a boil and reduce to a hard simmer. I cook until done and almost pull apart. One hour before I want to serve, I add potatoes and carrots and cook until soft. If that is too soon for supper, I lower the heat to a very low simmer. Since I keep a lot of water in the pot, I quite a bit left. It has made the best beef stock/broth. I measure up in 1 and 2 cup measures. I do not add onion, because hubby doesn't like onion, but if you do, onion would be great, (also celery)....See MoreBeef bones, bone broth and
Comments (10)The way I see it, you need a true butcher that knows his stuff and is also passionate about cooking. Most groceries stock shelves from factory packaged foam trays. I do often see what Annie is describing. Clean 8 inch bones, sometimes cut into 2 inch coins. Not meaty. And $$$ NYC has plenty. We are lucky enough to have a few nearby. And an HMart that has every foot and paw, ofals, meaty bones cheap. 2020 we got lucky with both delivery services that have all we need for stocks. We make a few different stocks but more often a mixed bone with aromatics and lots of veg scraps. Mixed bones, necks, etc in the freezer waiting for some leek tops, tired veg....we also always roast our bones first. The other stock is chicken. Roasting two whole small chickens that make a few meals, then stock the following day or two. The next roasting will be smoked. I have two in my cart now that the freezer is thinning...Spring cleaning. We have not been to our Italian market in over a year but they have a 10 pound frozen bag for 5 bucks...I've witnessed a little Italian lady shaking the bag at the butchers, "these used to be free!", lol, and they all laugh. Excellent butchers but their sausages are too salty. No wing for us. I don't get the NY desire. Way expensive. But that means more thighs for us at crazy low prices. 2.99 for organic pasture raised. Wings also go in our stock. (shush about how good thighs are)...especially the boneless skinless I braise....See MoreBone Broth Question
Comments (9)Not a real consensus across the board with chefs and recipe writers what distinquishes a stock or bone broth. But usually much richer using meaty bones---necks, ox tail, big nuckle bones, etc. Chicken backs, paws, wings and necks, pork necks. Some just use beef bones. A few dozen offerings around the city. A few of the nicer restaurants have put in take-out windows for a quick pay-n-go with a few varieties and some add-ins. Like fresh ginger or koombu, hijiki, shitake, bonito flake, etc. A broth to be sipped like a cup of coffee. Still many pay-n-go soup shops around with add-ins like grains, beans, noodles. I think of bone broth as mindful. Not a dump, simmer, and walk away. Oven roasted bones, aromatics toasted in the stock pot, Bones brought to a boil, barely covered, then immediately turned down to a simmer. 1-2 hours. Then add lots of vegetable matter. (no extra water as veg is full of it) Grass-feed pasture raised proteins, organic vegetables. Beef knuckle bones are huge. Barely fit in a slow cooker. I make stocks about every 5-6 weeks on a back burner. Gas cooktop but i use a enameled cast iron simmer plate. Recent chicken stock was an easy set it and forget it from a roasted whole chicken. I did roast and add some necks and feet i keep in the freezer. I still like to give my roasted parts for a basic stock a head start. I can take my time prepping/chopping the vegetable add-ins. That said, lots of home cooks use insta-pots, pressure cookers, slow cookers. I prefer to have more control. Keep a glancing eye on it and add any extra veg at any time while prepping dinner. I can poach a couple boneless skinless chicken thights in the stock pot for 45-an hour for a soup or lunch chicken salad in that nice broth during the simmering. My big meaty bone broth using a larger stock pot and cooked much longer i just call a 'Master' stock. Technically a 'bone' broth....See More- 10 years ago
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