Build a Deck or Patio or Fence in backyard area?
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Comments (31)Sorry about the confusion. The "+" sign is a symbol representing the center of a plant. The circle represents its perimeter. In this case, it represents a small tree. The "." symbol is the same thing. In this case it represents a shrub form. The shapes in between the patio and house are generic plants ... there only to give the plan a vague sense that plants in that space are possible. When looking down from above (as in a PLAN) all individual plants are going to look like a circle with a center. The scalloped edge thing is a plant MASS .... where smaller plants are amassed together such that you do not see the individual, but only the perimeter of the group. Here, it's all generic and doesn't yet matter about the plants. I'm only showing them to say that "some plants can fit in this space." At this point, all you need to care about is the patio. The hardscape (patio) comes first. The plantings are subordinate and will comply with whatever way the patio ends up being. Since you don't want a deck, whatever steps you have will come fairly near the door. You'll still need a landing at the door (rather than immediately stepping down as that would be cheap looking and feeling, such as what one would expect to see in a mobile home situation) which is why I suggest make it and steps full width of the wall face. It will work and look much better than if you try to make it only one door width, as it is now. You only need 4 risers for the set of steps. You want a small patio. There is no need or reason to make a contrived or convoluted set of steps with this small, simple need. Keep them spacious and simple and you will have a nice finished package. Get cute or clever and you might like it for a while, but others will wonder why you bothered or the next owner may dislike it. Simple, well functioning steps will work best. You can glamourize them in the construction details, if that suits your taste. If you want something other than straightforward, it would be best if you sketch it out in plan view, and then I'd be happy to react to what you've proposed, giving the pros and cons. I think I mentioned before but did not see your answer .... you'll need to figure out the total square footage that you want for patio space. It doesn't need to be to the square inch. You just need to get into the ballpark on it. While I'm not working to scale -- just proportion -- I estimate the patio in the sketch to be about 170 s.f., which does not count the pure walking space in front of the steps. Including that, it might be around 200 s.f. Keep in mind that in order to do the same functions (cook and eat) requires a little more room outdoors than it does indoors. Outdoors, people move about faster and flail their arms more :-)....See MoreBack Yard- Landscaping and Using Patio Area More
Comments (8)Yes, and some of them look like evergreen trees, notorious for hogging all the sun and water. Pots of shade loving plants do work. I do mulch under my trees and pots of bright colored impatiens mixed with vinca and begonias. Lobelia is good too. As for your deck, I'm thinking you just got the house? I wouldn't rip out the patio if you need more space, you can add on to it. Start using it and figure out your needs. Things to think about: privacy and views, are there views you'd like to block or privacy you'd like to establish. That can be solved with landscaping. Shade can be provided by trees, there are some fast growing ones that are nice for patio areas like autumn blaze maple or shademaster honey locust, for example. Figure out the path of the sun to figure out where the shade will be cast. Are you going to grill and eat on the patio? You can start with patio umbrellas covering those areas and decide if you want a pergola. I would love one, but umbrellas will work and the nice thing about them is you can move them around as your shade needs change. I'd wait a bit before committing to a pergola to figure out how big and where to place it. How about views? What do you want to look out on from your patio? Do you want a play area for lawn games or the like? A fire pit area. A kitchen or vegetable garden. An area for birdwatching? Three season interest. A place to snooze in a hammock? Just some ideas. Start with some thoughts on how you will use your yard, which will develop as you live there for a year. Decide on a plan for the whole yard and work on it in stages. Start with the things that will make the most difference, like hardscaping and trees....See MoreMuddy Backyard and Dogs- Ground Level Deck vs. Patio??
Comments (6)Active dogs and a lush, healthy lawn are incompatible :-) If you wish to have a decent lawn immediately surrounding your patio area, then you must keep the dogs off of it. You could designate a dedicated (and fenced) play area for the dogs elsewhere that is surfaced in wood chips that will resist mud and destruction. Unless you need an enlarged patio, I would not recommend increasing the size or adding on to the existing one. You could also treat the disturbed area next to the patio with wood chips as well, but the aesthetics of that solution leave much to be desired....See MoreNeed design help! Backyard patio - retaining wall - fence
Comments (3)Thanks Dave! How did you design that?...See More4Heidesign
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