WWYD: condo vs. small house?
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Comments (39)Okay, this has been making me crazy, so I finally just printed two copies, cut out everything with scissors, and slid everything around until I came up with something I could live with. So, sorry about the poor cut & paste job! I really, really liked the built-in seating area that someone posted on a previous post, so I started with that. Also, I am a zone person, so I'm looking for a storage zone, prep zone, cook zone, serve out and dirty dishes back. Also, I look for a "drop zone" for the fridge, freezer and pantry as you collect ingredients. The most recent picture (unless someone posts while I messing with this) has these 3 storage spots all over the kitchen and NONE have a drop zone, so you'll be carrying stuff everywhere. I also didn't want to forget that you mentioned that this was a secondary eating area and your family mostly ate in the dining room, so I wanted a clear path to serve out hot food and bring back dirty dishes. I liked the open W/D area and fiddled with putting in a pocket or sliding barn door to block it off, but I just couldn't get you a good prep area without that side. So my plan has your cold and dry storage both in a reasonable drop to your prep, then access to your cook, which has access to serving, which is in a clear path to either table. Fridge/freezer not buried in the kitchen so kids can get in and out with ice and drinks. Clear spot to dump dirty dishes (mine has tupperware underneath for saving leftovers), then DW near to dish storage, which needs to be near (under and above) serve-out. Hope this all makes sense; I'm rambling now. Measurements might not work out so well, but maybe this will give you a whole other game plan to think about. Probably want to slide the prep sink so that your pantry has a better drop zone, but not too much. Your main sink cut out really big and I don't know if you mean to have a sink that's 3' wide - I don't think your kitchen is going to be big enough to swing it and not sure why anyone would need it unless you're going to stack your dishes inside. (Also note that I didn't move any of the windows, forgot which ones move and which ones don't) Anyway, I'll keep watching a looking forward to seeing your eventual outcome! From Drop Box...See MoreCo-ops vs Condos?
Comments (4)Shares are simply not as valuable or as desirable as actual property. The building is owned by a corporation....and the individual pays for the right to occupy a unit. Re-sale value is pretty much the lowest on the home "ownership" food chain outside of Manhattan or other major cities. The co-op board usually gets to say who can buy and who can't...which can make the unit harder to sell. Those with the biggest units usually have more shares and therefore a bigger voice than those with small units or shares. The share holder is far more regulated in terms of what they can and can't do with their unit, since they don't own the unit. Everything has to be approved by the co-op board...including who buys the unit. I think they require a large down payment as well..and there are of course maintenance fees. IMO, a co-op a glorified rental..with the co-op board as your pesky "landlord". A condo, IMO, is a much better choice..because it is an actual piece of real estate, and as an owner you have more control over your living space...with no restrictions on whom you may sell to if and when that time arrives....See MoreCo-signing a condo/house for my son
Comments (20)I live in St. Louis, and I take issue with the ranking. Looking at the legal boundaries of the CITY of St. Louis, yes, parts of it are really bad. But anyone who lives in St. Louis includes the COUNTY of St. Louis as "St. Louis", which the report does not. IMO, this really skews the results and paints an undeserved portrait of St. Louis. Morgan Quitno Press publishes the rankings. The president of the company, Scott Morgan, said: ".... he is not surprised to see St. Louis top the list, since it has been among the 10 most dangerous cities for years. Morgan said the study looks at crime only within St. Louis city limits, with a population of about 330,000. It doesn't take into account the suburbs in St. Louis County, which has roughly 980,000 residents. " Here is a See where it says "St. Louis City", and the little line pointing to the small light blue area? THAT is what is ranked. See the large darker blue area around it, that says "St. Louis"? That is the "county", which is not included as part of St. Louis, even though it is very much "St. Louis". Re: drcindy's comments: The area immediately around SLU is much better than it used to be, and I don't hear of a lot of problems. University City and the Central West End are still quite hip. Clayton (which is part of the County, but immediately adjacent to the legal city limit), is fabulous.....and expensive. I would rent for a year first, so she could learn the area and make the best choice for a good place to live. If I were going to SLU, I'd look at the areas of Soulard, Tower Grove, South Grand, and Lafayette Square. These are all on the good end of transition, with a diverse population and great shops and restaurants. Personally, I would not live North of SLU (not referring to SLU Med), or in North County in general. North County seems to dominate the news regarding crime. Also note that MODOT (Missouri Dept. of Transportation) is starting a MAJOR re-do of Interstate 40/64 this year. This is one of our major arteries, and will make traffic miserable if you live/work in certain areas. Here is a link to the plans The area of construction is West of the areas I mentioned, so I don't think your daughter would live there, but you never know what might seem like a great area to her :) Investment wise, ie, not taking a beating when reselling, there are a number of areas in the city that are going through a resurgence. Some for many years, others just beginning. Businesses and individuals pouring money and heart into down and out neighborhoods. A sizeable influx of new immigrants has pushed these neighborhoods in a positive direction. It's amazing what some of these areas have become, and because of location, demographics and amenities, I do not see a down side. I haven't been able to say that about a lot of areas around here. Some were quickly, (and poorly), "developed" by absentee owners who had no stake in St. Louis other than a quick profit. It seems that most of the people working on the turnaround neighborhoods live there or very nearby. I still recommend renting first!...See MoreUnfinished Vs Waypoint Vs Ikea Small budget help please?
Comments (56)The weird part of the layout is the bump out where our daughter's closet is, by the stove. Husband isn't keen on taking that out, so for now it would be a work around. If the one wall comes out (where the "doors" are on the top wall), it will extend that part of the kitchen back out another 3.5-4' by 11'. (the rooms are currently offset, which I couldn't figure out how to show w/the planner so I just went ahead and made it so that wall was eliminated, making the dining area larger. Otherwise it would be like this, and not have a peninsula. There's nothing else I can think that could be changed to do w/the layout and traffic, so if you guys see something, feel free to point it out! The door on the left is the basement, that can't go anywhere, and the door on the right is an open doorway that goes to the living room, so that can't go anywhere. The door on the bottom wall is the patio door to the outside....See Morewritersblock (9b/10a)
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