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Lady Hillingdon, Weeping China Doll, Lavender Lassie?
Comments (8)I can only speak to Lavender Lassie. Lavender Lassie only reblooms for me if the winter and winter/spring transition has not been too severe. This past year was the first year since that awful Easter freeze of '07 that she and any of my other established hybrid musks rebloomed. If Lavender Lassie is doing okay, it blooms heavily in the spring and then a little more in the fall, but that is about it. No magic answer on this one....See MoreWhite leaves on Weeping China Doll - Alfalfa??
Comments (24)Hi Gracin: I'll work on what you wrote: "WCD is outgrowing the 15 gal. pot ... The sugar sand soil (pH 4.9 - 5.5) will be amended with about 50 - 60% composted cow manure. I guess the cow manure will add Nitrogen, and all I will need is the chelated iron, right? Or do I need bone meal" University of Georgia College of Agriculture stated that "Pine bark have a pH between 4.0 and 5.0 ... with 13% water-retention when fresh, and 21% water-retention when decomposed." Gracin, your soil is already acidic, so pine bark and peatmoss are NOT good choices. NPK of cow manure is: 0.6 / 0.4 / 0.5 ... it's very balanced. You don't need chelated iron, since manure has iron. You don't need bonemeal, if you add lots of manure. Contrary to on-line report that bone meal doesn't break down above neutral... it worked too well in my alkaline clay pH 7.7, when got rained on (pH of rain is 5.6). I dumped bonemeal around geraniums. Their blooms became vibrant deep colors, very pretty. But the plants got dwarfed and leaves got burnt. I put bone meal NPK of 1-13-0 into the planting hole of a white pine ... it burnt my white pine. Phosphorus at 13 was too high for my retentive clay. Bonemeal is great if worked well into sandy soil like Sherry. Kitty litter is granulated clay ... good stuff for sandy soil. I tested the pH of Scott's top soil, it's neutral ... safe to use. Zacklau in CT has acidic soil, he mentioned that his roses were sick, no fertilizer could solve the problem, until he fixed his acid soil with lime. Getting the pH to the neutral zone is more important that adding chemicals. The soil will release all the nutrients plants need when it's at the neutral zone. I would test the pH of the cow manure. Fresh cow manure is reported at pH of 4. If they use lime to deodorize the floor, it will bring the pH up. If they bag the cow manure and add more lime in to keep the odor down, cow manure pH shoots up to 8. I would test the pH of the soil, and the pH of the cow manure load to make sure that the combo is OK. Roses grow best at pH 6.5 to 7. Cow manure and kitty clay would be enough. Cantigny park in zone 5a with 1,200 roses put forth the best display when they fertilized with fresh cow manure in spring. It stank up the park but that was their best: roses with shiny leaves, dark green, tons of blooms. Latter years they use chemical fertilizer high in phosphorus, tons of blooms - but the overall health is never as good as cow manure. Horse manure also have iron. My neighbor ordered a pile of dirt with 1/2 "mushroom compost". I inspected his pile and saw mostly woodchips, the same stuff that I get from the stable. He topdressed his lawn with that, and has the deepest green lawn in the neighborhood. The woodchips that came with the manure made his lawn spotty. If your pile is 100% cow manure, no woodchips bedding like horse stable .... then you have the best stuff possible. Even high phosphorus fertilizer can't beat the amount of blooms when roses are fed with manure. It's best to check the pH of your cow manure to see if it's acidic at 4 like some reported values of fresh cow manure. Here is a link that might be useful: Testing soil pH using red cabbage This post was edited by Strawberryhill on Sat, Feb 23, 13 at 15:53...See MoreChina Doll, Cl. or Otto Linne
Comments (6)Mine are very different from one another. Now, just to make matters more confusing, there is some thought that Gartendirektor Otto Linne may be confused with Excellenz von Schubert in commerce. But it doesn't matter. Both are different from Cl. China Doll. My GOT is a shrubby thing, like a polyantha, with very modern shiny foliage. Cl. China Doll has a climbing habit and very distinct form to the inflorescences, blooming in a raceme at the ends of the canes....See MoreWeeping Rose Tree?
Comments (27)Hi, Friends, This is many years later.... but I ordered a Pink Weeping Tree Rose from Direct Gardens. ( same rose tree photo as Burpee, H Wesley and a lot of nurseries all connected. I researched and it appears it may be “Aloha, Climbing. ( Boerner bred) rose grafted on a tree root stem. I live in 6b zone. It grew very vigorously, very fragrant, beautiful, hardy, and Its been in ground for now its 2nd winter. It was beautiful for blooms after 1 year this summer 2020. They have same @Pink Weeping Tree Rose photo on Ad this year 2021 in all catalogs and on websites. I am very happy with it. I am hoping I named it correctly as “Aloha,” since they won’t identify name. Direct-Gardening photo for Ad, but my rose that I ordered from them doesn’t look like this photo or fit it’s description as a “mini grafted bush.) My Pink Weeping Tree Rose ordered from Direct-Gardening looks like my photos below... 5inch huge diameter blooms, glossy leaves, vigorous growing of course because it has been grafted from a climber. I still need to stake it this spring. I expect it to grow large since it’s from a climber.. It would be more hardy than a Weeping Tree rose with mini roses on it. Weeping Tree roses are either grafted from a climber or ground cover rose. For those of us with snow zones 6, 5, 4 and colder I would look for hardy varieties of Weeping Tree roses. I have a Wedding Dress Tree Rose, with mini white blooms, but it does well on side of home, it’s warmer and blocked from wind. A butterfly bush is next to it giving it more shelter. I find foliage of other plants give them protection in winter, too. I just have good mulch around it’s roots and that is it. I find my whole garden bed next to home gets less snow and is warmer on this sunny side. Great place for my roses....See More
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