I think 2 tsps of salt should be enough...taste the dough and see what you think How about this recipe: I like to make them in the mornings for a breakfast roll too. I usually double the recipe using only 1/3 cup sugar in the doubled recipe. If you keep the dough for a week, punch it down every day or so. They are a great roll. Buttermilk Refrigerator Rolls 1 Package dry yeast 1/2 cup warm water 1/2 cup melted butter 4 1/2 cups all purpose flour 1/4 cup sugar 1 tablespoon plus 1 teaspoon baking powder 1 teaspoon salt 1/2 teaspoon soda 2 cups buttermilk Dissolve yeast in warm water in a large mixing bowl. Let sit 5 minutes. Stir in butter Combine dry ingredients; add to yeast mixture along with buttermilk. Stir well. Turn dough out on a floured surface, knead gently a few times and shape into a ball. Place in greased bowl, cover, and refrigerate until needed. Keeps for one week. Break off a soft ball sized lump of dough and roll into a circle about 1/4" thick. Cut into pie shaped wedges and roll up from the wider edge into crescent shapes. You do not have to let them rise again. Bake on greased baking sheet at 400 for 8-10 minutes I'm glad you liked the rolls Emily. I'm about to make 300 of them for an upcoming event. I should have mentioned that the dough is very sticky after stirring. I scrape it onto my board and very gently knead in another 1/2 to 1 cup more flour. Just firm enough to handle. The flour is coating the outside of the gluten ball. Later, when punched down, I use enough flour to roll them out..it's actually more of a streching the ball into a flattish round. I try not to disturb the gluten sack. I do roll a bit, however. I'm not explaining it very well, but bread doughs can be managed by using flour on the outside and not incorporating it into the dough itself. This makes a lighter roll. Or these...just what we need at Thanksgiving...more butter but they are very VERY good. Julie Trussler's Butter Brite Rolls 2 pkg dry yeast 3 eggs 1/2 c warm water 1 t. salt 1 1/2 c. milk 4-6 cups flour 1/2csugar 1 1/2 c. butter softened Disolve yeast in warm water and add 1 t sugar and let rest until proofed. Add sugar milk and salt and beat in 3c flour , add eggs and another cup of flour and mix very well. Add enough more flour to make a soft dough and refrigerate 15 minutes. On lightly floured surface, roll dough to a 15 X 20 rectangle. Spread bottom 2/3 of the rectangle with 1/2 c of butter and fold top 1/3 over middle 1/3 and bottom 1/3 over all. Fold each end to the center and fold one more time. Refrigerate 30 minutes and repeat buttering and folding 2 more times. Refrigerate overnight ( Julie says.....but a couple of hours is enough) Makes crescent rolls dinner rolls and sweet rolls. Bake 400 degrees for 10 to 12 minutes depending on size. These are not yeast rolls...but very good. New England Biscuits with Cranberries and Rosemary 2 cups flour 2 teaspoons baking powder 2 teaspoons sugar 1 teaspoon salt 5 tablespoons cold unsalted butter, cut into small pieces ½ cup dried cranberries 2 tablespoons minced fresh rosemary, finely chopped 1 cup buttermilk 1 egg, lightly beaten Preheat oven to 400 degrees. Spray a baking sheet with cooking spray or line with parchment paper. In a food processor, combine the flour, baking powder, sugar and salt. Pulse to combine. Add the butter and process until the mixture resembles coarse cornmeal. Place the mixture in a large bowl. Stir in the cranberries, rosemary and buttermilk. Mix well. The dough will be sticky. Transfer to a floured work surface. Dust your hands with flour and knead the dough 10 times or until smooth. Pat into a round about ½ inch thick. Using a 2-inch round biscuit cutter or drinking glass, cut out biscuits and place on the prepared pan. Gather the scraps and repeat until all the dough is used. Brush the biscuit tops with the beaten egg. Bake until golden brown, about 15 minutes. Transfer to a wire rack and let cool slightly.

Make what Fanny Farmer calls "milk and water bread".. 1 cup milk ( whole) 1 cup warm water, 1 T. salt 4 T shortening ( crisco, lard, butter oleo, or oil) 2 T sugar About 6 cups bread flour Warm water, mix in sugar and yeast, Scald milk add shortening to it and allow to cool. When cool stir into the yeast water mix, add 1/2 the flour and beat and stir, add the salt, mix and stir and add flour until stiff enough to knead, adding as much more flour as needed to make as oft but workable dough. Let rise until double. Form into rolls of desired size...let rise until not quite double and bake 375 until done ( depends on the size of the rolls)...about 17 to 35 minutes. Makes good hamburger buhs. Linda C

Here's Barefoot Contessa's recipe for lemon bread 1/2 pound (2 sticks) unsalted butter, at room temperature 2 1/2 cups granulated sugar, divided 4 extra-large eggs, at room temperature 1/3 cup grated lemon zest (6 to 8 large lemons) 3 cups flour 1/2 teaspoon baking powder 1/2 teaspoon baking soda 1 teaspoon kosher salt 3/4 cup freshly squeezed lemon juice, divided 3/4 cup buttermilk, at room temperature 1 teaspoon pure vanilla extract For the glaze: nocoupons 2 cups confectioners' sugar, sifted 3 1/2 tablespoons freshly squeezed lemon juice Directions Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F. Grease and flour 2 (8 1/2 by 4 1/4 by 2 1/2-inch) loaf pans. You may also line the bottom with parchment paper, if desired. Cream the butter and 2 cups granulated sugar in the bowl of an electric mixer fitted with the paddle attachment, until light and fluffy, about 5 minutes. With the mixer on medium speed, add the eggs, 1 at a time, and the lemon zest. Sift together the flour, baking powder, baking soda, and salt in a bowl. In another bowl, combine 1/4 cup lemon juice, the buttermilk, and vanilla. Add the flour and buttermilk mixtures alternately to the batter, beginning and ending with the flour. Divide the batter evenly between the pans, smooth the tops, and bake for 45 minutes to 1 hour, until a cake tester comes out clean. Combine 1/2 cup granulated sugar with 1/2 cup lemon juice in a small saucepan and cook over low heat until the sugar dissolves. When the cakes are done, allow to cool for 10 minutes. Remove the cakes from the pans and set them on a rack set over a tray or sheet pan; spoon the lemon syrup over them. Allow the cakes to cool completely. For the glaze, combine the confectioners' sugar and the lemon juice in a bowl, mixing with a wire whisk until smooth. Pour over the tops of the cakes and allow the glaze to drizzle down the sides.

The combo in a pie doesn't sound great to me but I've never actually tried it. There is a persimmon pie recipe at the site below that looks really good using Fuyo persimmons. (scroll down.) Here is a link that might be useful: Persimmon pie