New Miele Washers/Dryers coming
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Miele Little Giant PW 6065 Washer & PT 7136 Dryer
Comments (3)I have a pair so I can chime in... If your outlets are directly behind where the units will be placed (which typically would make sense, especially if stacked) you must keep in mind that the molded plugs provided by Miele are NOT the normal 90 degree "flat" style like most US 3-prong dryer plugs. They plug straight in and then there's about 3-4" of handle on the plug. So they must stand off from the wall by at least this much to avoid crimping the wires. If you have flexibility in where your two dryer outlets will be placed, if you have them placed to one side of the units they can be placed closer to the wall or undercounter. One last thing...with the dryer you MUST provide 208V, not the usual 240V. The dryer will not work overvolted. This requires a step-down transformer to be installed by a qualified electrician. See other threads on GardenWeb regarding the transformer requirement for the PT7136....See MoreMiele washer/dryer
Comments (18)Hey, I know this is an old thread, but thought I'd jump in for what it is worth... We were a test household for the Touchtronic washers & dryers, set up by a close relative working in the company who, bless her heart, thought she was doing a nice thing. Over the course of two years I cannot tell you how many times one or both was not working. They always sent a service tech within a week, but with 5 of us in the house a week with no washer or dryer left mountains of dirty laundry and kids wearing dirty uniforms to school (we can't have a clothesline where we live). They replaced the dryer twice during the test period, the washer once. If I'd had any money at all, I would have gone out and bought a cheap Kenmore or something, but that was not the case. At the end of the test period they collected all the test models and shipped them back to Germany for inspection because they had been such dismal failures. I was "rewarded" for the 2 years of inconvenience with two new machines, which were by now available in stores and ostensibly had all the kinks worked out. The washer has been fine but I am currently on my third service call for the month of June alone with the dryer. I am told by my relative that this was Miele's first foray into the "large capacity" world and they tried to cut production costs dramatically and met with massive failure. Apparently "large capacity" residential-use washers & dryers weren't a big item in Europe, so they had production of only smaller-capacity, efficient machines down to an exact science. The word is that yes, Miele is scrapping this particular line of washers and dryers and the new ones are rolling out right now (Spring/Summer '09). So I wish you luck and hope you have successful laundry experience. When my service warranty runs out next year, I will be getting an old-school, woefully inefficient dryer from Craigslist for $50 because I suspect it will ACTUALLY DRY THE CLOTHES. :) BTW, I LOVE my Miele dishwasher and both Miele vacuums. They are problem-free (knock wood!) and work wonderfully well, and my sister has 2 Miele wall ovens and a 6-burner cooktop, all fabulous and operating smoothly since their install 3 years ago. I took me a long time to get over the shock at owning a Miele appliance that was NOT top-notch....See MoreHelp Me Plan Rough-in for New Miele Washer Dryer
Comments (7)Thanks all for posting. I have stalled out on the remodel but will be back in action this next week when my carpenter can start. I have a new carpenter coming to appraise the progress of the job and start next week. Long story, but this new carpenter is actually the one I wanted originally but not unavailable so went with someone else (who didn't work out). Here is a plan view as asked for, and an elevation. The two walls that create the corner where the W/D sit are both load bearing walls. The blue square in upper left corner is the Miele W/D stack. The gray square to the right of W/D is the cabinetry and where I plan to access the shut off valve and dryer venting. These utilities will be in the back wall accessible through the shelving inside the cabinet: This elevation shows cabinets to the right of the W/D and will have the shut off valve inside the cabinet, reachable through the shelving. This elevation rendition is not current. Instead, I plan to have doors above counter height, and have the below counter area open, without a door: Shut off Valve: I have a manual shut off valve with the drain hole (all in one box) mounted by the plumber. This will be easily accessible from the side of the set, inside the cabinet. Hoses: I have the Floodchek hoses on site and ready for installation. Overflow Pan: I was thinking of a overflow pan such as this one I have linked below. It has a 5 gal capacity and has a 24x24 outside dimension. Anti-Vibration: I still have not made a platform for the set but was thinking of 2 plywood 3/4" sheets with a sandwiched mass loaded vinyl sheet in between as recommended by Mongoct on the bathroom forum. Otherwise the anti-vibration feet that Deke mentions might work and a lot less trouble. I have see some anti-vibration feet on the Grainger web site for heavy machinery. I might try those. Here is a link: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/ecatalog/K-16/N-/No-0/Ntt-anti+vibration+pads?Ndr=textsearchesinbase%2Btrue&sst=subset Dryer Venting: I have been planning to bring it out the right side of the set, and accessible in the back of the cabinet, for cleaning ease. I may not be able to place it in the wall as the studs are in the way of the joist space for the ducting. If I can have the carpenter frame out the stud wall for a dryer vent I will. I want ridged venting, and have it accessible to the side of the dryer (not behind the dryer). If this can't be done within the wall space, I will have to put a hole in the floor in front of the wall for the venting, concealing it behind the cabinet. though this will make it vulnerable to bumping with the laundry basket that I plan to keep in the lower area below the counter. My machines are at the warehouse waiting. Any comments or recommendations are welcome! Thanks again :) Here is a link that might be useful: slide-n-fold pan...See MoreUpdate on Miele washer and dryer after 6 years
Comments (24)Miele does occasionally run 5 year promos in the USA. It is just rare. We got a 5 year warranty on our W4840 and T9800 when we bought them for free as a promo. Lasting 20 years a misnomer. It needs to be qualified. Any car will easily last 20 years if you drive 1000 miles per year. If you put on 30,000 miles per year and expect 20 years then that is something else entirely. That is why anecdotes of "mine lasted 20 years" and "Mine lasted 8, I am mad" really mean nothing. Miele puts hours of operation counters on ALL of their appliances. This is not usually accessible to consumers unless you find the instructions online. The W4840 and T9800 and the successor models were designed to last 10,000 operating hours. How quickly you use those 10,000 hours determines how long the machine will last FOR YOU. Our W4840 lived about 10 years. It had 15,000 hours on it when the bearings went out. So it lived 50% longer than it was designed to. We replaced the water path control unit around 7 years in, but the machine had over 10,000 hours on it by this time. The water path control unit is a gear driven unit that directs water to the detergent dispenser tray slot 1, 2 or 3. It usually fails due to buildup of mineral deposits from hard water. The W4840 was designed for 8KG of laundry. The drum was oversized and you could stuff a LOT more laundry than that inside, which I am sure EVERYONE did since who eyeballs 8KG of laundry. For reference the drum would be about HALF full with 8KG of laundry in a W4840. The new W1 is also certified for 8KG of laundry, but the drum will be almost full with this much inside. You would really have to cram stuff in to overload it. This means the W1 is going to be running at or under its designed capacity for most of it's life. The W4840 was probably overloaded by most consumers and this no doubt had an effect on longevity. We have a large family (14 people in the house) and we use ONE W1 and ONE T1 washer/dryer combo. We bought the washer in October of 2018. I checked a few days ago and we have over 3000 hours on the washer so far. Not one problem with it. It runs most of the day and part of the night. The T1 has also not had a single problem. We also noticed our electric bill went down about $25-30/month when we switched from the T9800 to the T1. It will most likely pay for most of its cost in electricity savings. We WILL be buying the five year extended warranty. We have until the manufacturer warranty runs out. We will long surpass 10,000 hours before the extended warranty is expired. Will I be mad I don't get 20 years of life from the unit? Of course not. If it lasts the 10,000 hours it was designed for, then I got my monies worth. How do you check your hours? Google it. The W4840 had an hour meter. Post how many hours are on on your washer. That will help to clarify if the product is not living up to it's design life. Just because the neighbors have lower end devices that outlasted your Miele does not tell the whole story. Maybe they wear their clothes three or four times before washing them, vs someone else who washes after every wear. My sister is terrible about going a weeks worth of wear of things like socks, t-shirts and other items that really should be washed after every wear. I could understand if it was dress shirts to an office job where the shirt doesn't touch the body and really doesn't get "Dirty". When we bought our Mieles the sales staff where we bought also sold commercial washers. They flat out told us the residential LG and Whirlpool would be dead in less than a few years if we did 8-10 loads of laundry a day in them. Said speed queen was the only brand other than Miele that would hold up to our use outside of a commercial unit. We NEEDED an internal water heater to sanitize diapers and under garments. That eliminated Speed Queen....See Morefauguy
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