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GMO in the food supply (follow-up to previous post)
Comments (102)I posted this in another forum, but since the person who dug up this old thread to talk about "gene 6" in multiple forums... In case anyone wants some information about "gene 6"...better/correctly known as "P6"...as it pertains to current discussion based on a study by the EFSA... This is a very wide range of proteins found in virus encoding from HIV to mosaic virus...these proteins are also found in the smoke of burning meat and tobacco. It's a very wide range. In this case, one of the biggest dangers would be a chance encoding to re-invigorate the "dead" version of cauliflower mosaic virus (or P6 residues) that's very commonly used as a carrier string for DNA/RNA insertion that it's inserted into. This could lead to some allergy problems, too, even if it doesn't fully express the mosaic virus but still overlaps enough to express P6 proteins. P6 is a known allergen, though it's not one that everyone is sensitive to. The expression of this gene is highly unlikely, though...and would be regulated to a single (or very small groups) of plants doing this replication rather than entire seed source or a field suddenly replicating mosaic virus or P6 residues. If it is the case that encoding suddenly made it large-scale available it would show up heavily in the research stage and it wouldn't make it out into the consumer market since it's showing inferior/bad genetic expression. One of the biggest parts of GMO research is tossing out 99%+ of everything you're actually trying to create because positive effects of expression aren't stable enough to sell it as seed...or it's showing "bad" expressions. There's a lot of otherwise harmful viruses (to plants or humans) used to insert GMO traits for start/end points into a genetic change that are made inert (and distinctly different) from their original genetic package, but still contain large parts of what makes up the virus, itself. Viruses can easily carry genetic information and they're ideal vehicles for transferring it. The genetic carriers of the virus are merely vehicles. Once you change the "genetic package" inside a virus it's not even what you started with. The "guts" are changed dramatically. If you put a Dodge Neon engine in a Porsche very few people would still consider it a Porsche. That's the level of dramatic change in sequencing going on inside of these packages. You can take certain virus types, depending on what you're trying to achieve, and precisely insert genetic information with start/termination points into existing DNA/RNA...totally turning it's genetic information into something totally different in both makeup and application. Btw, to those with P6 protein sensitivities...this would be a big deal. I'm not trying to knock the research at all. I'm just saying it's overlapping expression would most likely be contained to a very few plants in a field, not widespread. While genetic start/termination points are very good with insertion and replication once stable, nothing is perfect when you're exchanging genes...we see it even natural breeding. The major problem with this particular chain of insertion is the overlapping of the 2 sequences given as example in the paper and what could happen as a consequence of them being genetically linked so closely together...even if there's a very small chance of it happening as defined. It's also worth mentioning we're talking a single virus carrier, not the 100s of types (or the 20-ish most commonly used) carriers. It would also be greatly influenced by the new information inserted, what was cut out, and where the start/termination points overlap (if there is any replication overlap). There's more than 1 way to insert genetic information into virus and the chances of overlap encoding or reversion is different depending on the type of method used....See MoreFollow-up from previous post on CL Table
Comments (21)You did a great job! Some day you may want that extra table, and when it�s gone, it�s gone, and you would not get much for it, compared to the use you would have for it yourself. I have a pair of brass and glass tables, one end and a sofa table, that I have been considering doing the same thing to. I hate to donate them, they are in great shape, just the shiny brass looks dated. Mine are very plain, just tubular rectangular brass. I assume lacquered over the brass. The sofa table does have some corrosion at the bottom. May I ask you: how did you prep the metal?...See MoreUpdate on previous post
Comments (9)Thanks Mary...I havent rented in over 10 years. I guess my fear of being a renter really clouded my judgement-although that foreclosure seemed to be a really sweet deal. I am so used to my kids being able to play and laugh loudly even later in the evening, used to not having to worry that my dog is disturbing someone because he is barking at a critter foraging outside, and used to not having to worry that me walking around on the kitchen floor in the middle of the night may be disturbing people downstairs. Because of the pets and kids-and the location we need to relocate to, I am pretty much stuck with an apartment complex.... The first people were unable to come up with financing in the first 48 hours. I consider myself fortunate-because the husband came by my house the night before we accepted the second offer/before we initiated the kick out clause to ask me questions-9PM he knocks on my door even though we both have agents-wakes up my kids, and I had just sat down to relax after a long day-to ask me to leave certain decorations-because his wife was "taken" by them-no mention of money-I'm just supposed to leave them. I told him what store I purchased them in-and where he would be able to purchase alot of the items he wanted...and he mentioned in passing that his house wasn't on the market yet-and he was hoping he could wait at least till next week to put it on the market because he doesnt want to deal with it over the memorial day weekend....Huh??? Then he wanted to know if the small propane tank for the fireplace was rented or purchased-all things he could have easily found out from my agent. I know we offered this house for a more then fair price. I felt as though he was trying to squeeze every bit he could out of me-and Im sure it would have gottten worse as time went on. When I mentioned it to my agent the next morning, she called his agent to ask him what the guy was thinking coming over here, and the other agent had no clue the guy was here. My agent told me I shouldn't have let him in-I should have just told him he should direct any questions to his agent, and politely close the door... Apparently he wasn't in any kind of big rush to sell his home even though my home would have to wait to sell till he was ready. I dont know what he was thinking-the contract he signed said that he had 72 hours from the time we signed the contract to get his house on the market.... The other offer now in effect is a very nice couple-they even sent a note with the offer asking me not to change a thing because they loved the house just the way it was-and they commented on how nice and clean it was and how much they are looking forward to living here. I do love this house so very much, and feel so much better knowing these people will take care of it like I have-and will only improve on what we have done....See MoreAnyone willing to post follow ups to earlier posts?
Comments (27)Squirrel was very helpful to me about a month ago with a bathroom update...I have the cabinets primed, and paint determined, but we've had 2 deaths in our family since then, an out of town family wedding, and I can't forget the solid week of 2 kids with h1n1...And now I have my 81 year old father staying with us for 2 weeks. Then comes Thanksgiving with a boat load of company here...so I'm hoping by December to have the room done and will post pics then. So I haven't been purposefully neglectful ;) ...I just haven't had time to paint and be done! I will though...I am looking forward to it very much! And I promise to post pics when I'm done. Crossing fingers for Dec with no other chaos interfering!! I'll be back soon hopefully!...See MoreBunny
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