What to do with old flour and rancid nuts
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Comments (7)I have actually told vendors at the fair that "This isn't canned properly. You shouldn't be selling this to the public when canned this way because...." I don't care if they get upset. They are the ones who went public with their wares. They are the ones who should have made the effort to learn. They are the ones putting the public at risk. If they ask for more info I give it to them and do it nicely. If they get huffy and indignant maybe they will think about it and investigate more later. Meanwhile at least the other people around have heard me. Then I contact the local extension office rep there since it is their responsibility to make sure this doesn't happen in the first place. That's the bad red devil that sits on one of my shoulders. He figures we should just pick up the jars and then make sure the owner and everyone else there sees you open and dump them in the trash as you explain why. What can I say, he's old and evil. But the angel sitting on the other shoulder (yes, I do have one despite what others may think) always reminds me that there are a lot of folks that don't know enough to even consider the possibility that they don't know enough. You aren't old and evil like me :-) so do what Carol suggested, contact the county extension office (if this was a county fair) or the state extension office and provide them with the necessary info. It is their responsibility and who knows, maybe it will at least make someone down the line think twice. Dave...See MoreWhat is Occident flour? Need ideas for 10 Grain flour too.
Comments (4)Make bread with the occident flour. From the label, the occident flour is bromated (potassium bromate). Years ago it was common for flour to contain bromates and iodates, which are dough conditioners, and they gave bread dough more extensibility. That's when "double" was the common standard to allow dough to rise. Now, without bromates in flour, it's best to only allow dough to rise to just UNDER double or you chance over-proofing the dough. There was an anti-bromate movement and California banned bromates in flour and it has been removed from most commercial flour products. It has been replaced with ascorbic acid. The malted barley flour in the occident flour will add a bit of a nutty flavor. If it was diastatic barley malt, that contributes enzymes that break down the big molecules of starch into the simple sugars that yeast can use. As for the 10-grain flour, check out recipes at Bob's Red Mill (scroll down the page - just before the reviews): Vegan 10-Grain Pancakes Banana Pecan Coffee Cake 10-Grain Yogurt Quick Bread Craig's World Famous Natural Granola (or Bars) Because there are a number of low-gluten and gluten-free grains/seeds/beans in the 10-grain mixture, you need to be mindful of that for making a yeast bread with it. Use it in combination with a high-gluten bread flour for bread so you have enough gluten available (start by substituting 20-25% of the bread flour with 10-grain flour). It will work for quick breads and cookies because of the lower gluten level. -Grainlady Here is a link that might be useful: 10-Grain Flour - Bob's Red Mill...See Morewhat's with these rancid pecans???
Comments (12)We use a lot of nuts in food preparation and as snack food around here. I buy new crop nuts from a producer, when possible, but also get the 2-pound bags from Sam's club. I also stock-up on in-shell nuts after the holidays (when the price is reduced) - they are usually new crop and fairly "fresh". They keep best stored in the freezer. Hubby will (mindlessly) shell/clean nuts for me while watching sports on TV on the weekend, and I vacuum-seal them in FoodSaver bags and store in the freezer. This helps keep them fresh longer. The absense of air will keep the oil in the nuts from going rancid. I avoid storing out-of-the-shell nut meats at room temperature. That's just an invitation for them to go rancid. One step I do with out-of-shell nut meats that makes them easier to digest is to soak and dehydrate them. Source: "Nourishing Traditions" by Sally Fallon and Mary G. Enig, Ph.D. CRISPY NUTS 4 cups nuts 1 T. sea salt filtered water to cover Soak nuts for at least 7 hours, or overnight. This partially sprouts the nut and reduces the enzyme inhibitors that make nuts hard to digest. Drain in a colander. Spread on a baking pan and bake in a warm oven (no more than 150°F) until completely crisp and dry. (Note: I use my dehydrator for this.) Once completely dry - 12 to 24 hours, allow to come to room temperature and then vacuum seal in bags, canisters or jars. ------------------ Crispy nuts can be used just like fresh nuts. They can be toasted, if you wish. Personally, we like soaked and dehydrated nuts much better than fresh nuts. -Grainlady...See MoreDo nuts go bad?
Comments (18)If the nuts are in their original airtight packaging they may be in a nitrogen atmosphere which would delay rancidification (and the hatching of bugs). However, five years is a long time for plastic packaging to keep out oxygen. Keeping fats chilled delays rancidification, but it doesn't prevent it. So fats can go bad in the refrigerator or even the freezer, but it takes considerably longer. Bisquick contains shortening -- in other words, fat. If they used a shortening that didn't go rancid after a decade, it probably shouldn't be eaten at all. However, if they were still using coconut or palm or other tropical oils back then, it could be safe, but it's unlikely the leavening would still work. As long as the can isn't leaking or bulging, open it and check the inside for any sign of the lining breaking down (discoloration of the interior or the contents). Canning requires foods to be so overcooked in the first place that as long as the can is intact, chances are there would be no noticeable difference in quality or nutrition....See Moreolychick
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