Is BM Black Tar more of a charcoal or does it read black?
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cawaps
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8 years agoI had been having no end trouble with Benjamin Moore's Personal Color Viewer, but Emmarene's pic inspired me to try again, this time with a different browser, and I got it to work.
So here is the combination with the Black Tar (to give a baseline). As I mentioned in my earlier post, I find it a bit stark.
Her it is with Dragon's Breath. It's still got a strong contrast, but the color is a bit warmer and not quite as dark as Black Tar.
A lot of the colors I suggested look pretty similar in the imaging, so I won't bother to post them all. Here's another option, Aegean Olive.
pcweary
8 years agoThank you both very much...you have gone to so much trouble for me and I appreciate it.. I, too, had trouble with the BM visualizer and after a couple of hours gave up.. The Black Tar is eliminated, as of now and I do like River Silt.
The other choices are too much like I have now and I am trying to change overall look slightly with the new roof. This is my front door, if that changes anything.
And here is my roof.
I did find a softer black, Mopboard Black, but in the meantime, I shall get a sample of River Silt.. Thanks again...
cawaps
8 years agopcweary
8 years agoLOL....I use Safari, maybe that is my problem.. Well, I am going to complicate this whole post.. SW Pewter Tankard was my first choice for brick color but painter and I preferred to use Aura by BM.. The Rockport Gray was very close but when I went to BM store yesterday to get River Silt(which they did not have) swatch, they color matched Pewter Tankard in Aura perfectly.. So now I am feeling more confident about color matching.
Here is the sample of Pewter Tankard, flanked by Bracken Slate on left and Mopboard Black on right.. At top is a small swatch of Wrought Iron.
You are correct. Not considering something more colorful..I would like a dark gray....Wrought Iron might work. The Mopboard Black looks grayish next to black.
emmarene9
8 years agoIf you are sure your color matches Pewter Tankard then this is the color suggested on their website.
River Silt above
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