bragu for president! Strict law of 100 adenium minimum for all households.

Tracy, are there any little hats popping up yet? (Was trying to think of a term that wouldn't sound inappropriate)

Yes, Nicholas I see them coming up. None have stood up yet but they are on the surface and getting ready for a good stretch!

Tracy

Many of my Black Arabicum babies are already showing themselves, with their hats still on. I don't know if you can tell but there are seedlings of all 4 cultivars up and about! Now if they could just give the Pachys a nudge, we will be in business! Adobo I will give it a couple more days then post the germination rates. There are still some down in the soil that will be peeking up soon.

Tracy

Tracy

Looks like they are starting to check out their new world a bit. Happy little seedlings they will be.

Looking good, Tracy. :-) "Black Dwarf RCN" and "Black Dwarf PNW"? Sounds very interesting! ;-)

I am probably saying their names incorrectly. It probably should be A. arabicum 'Black RCN' x A. arabicum 'Dwarf'; A. arabicum 'Black PNW' x A. arabicum 'Dwarf'; A. arabicum 'Black Giant' x A. arabicum 'Dwarf'. Either way, they germinated rather quickly. It will be exciting to see some of these different traits in my collection.

Tracy

Arg. The light.

I have one of those black RCN drwarf things. They're slow growers but the color of the trunk is really nice. More purplish black than actually black.

You know, they are laughing at us over there in Thailand.

'Silly Americans, they want our weeds, AND will pay us for them' ...

psst .. I got some dandelion seed I'll sell ya ….

Ah, crosses between Adenium arabicum "Black RCN" and "Dwarf". I will follow the thread closely. I am always on the lookout for interesting adenium stuff. ;-)

The Black RCN x dwarf seeds seem to be germinating the slowest of the bunch. So far only 1 out of 10 have surfaced.

RCN rach chi nee = queen of thousand flowers in english

another RCN, Fully trained...

RCN been Fused

Daaaang jericson, those are superb, are they yours?

I sowed my black dwarf RCN in winter and the following spring, it turned dark after about a couple of months in direct sunlight.

I don't mean to veer out of topic, Tracy, but that episcia looks yummy too. Kiwi, is it?

Pagan

Adobo RCN is actually abbreviation for 'Ra Chi Nee Pan Dok'. These are strains of Thai Arabicum. I do not know the exact parentage of these seeds. The second RCN surfaced today in the germination chamber.

The photo posted with the seeds from eBay

Some good details about Dwarf strains of arabicum can be found here.

Tracy

Pagan, regarding the Episcias. I do not have a name except Episcia Hybrid. A single plant produces about 6 different sets of color variations. It's like having 6 different plants in one, it is crazy! The whole trick to keeping them alive is to make sure you are growing them faster than the lack of humidity can kill them. They love trying to crawl into the germination chambers where is it nice and warm and humid. They love to wrap themselves around my Adeniums too. I think they make a terrific companion plants. If you want to see the thread from earlier this spring when I was taking them out of the humidity chamber it can be found here.

Tracy

Photo update: These arabicum crosses were sown a week ago yesterday so 8 days ago. The front section is the RCNs which were a little slow to start but are now beginning to germinate. There is a fourth one coming up and hopefully more to follow. Seedlings are fat and healthy.

Tracy

There might be another couple that come up, if so I will update the germination rates in this post. So far I have a 75% (updated 9/8/2015) germination rate which is very good considering that these are hybrid crosses!

10 A. arabicum 'Black Pearl' (6) 60%

10 A. arabicum 'Black Dwarf RCN' (6) 60%

10 A. arabicum 'Black Dwarf PNW' (7) 70%

10 A. arabicum 'Black Giant Dwarf' (10) 100%

Tracy

There is another Black Giant that came up a few days ago, I've added it to my post with the germination rates.

Very nice.

Photo update. I moved this tray beneath the tubes so that they can begin to grow.

We had a several of late comers to the party. Three more showed up today bringing germination rate to a whopping 75%. I updated the earlier post as well.

10 A. arabicum 'Black Pearl' (6) 60%

10 A. arabicum 'Black Dwarf RCN' (7) 70%

10 A. arabicum 'Black Dwarf PNW' (7) 70%

10 A. arabicum 'Black Giant Dwarf' (10) 100% -- very nice

Tracy

Wow. Looking very good!

One more RCN popped today, I am attempting to correct my naming convention for these seeds. I do not know the parentage.

10 A. arabicum 'Black Pearl' (6) 60%

10 A. arabicum Dwarf 'Black RCN' (8) 80%

10 A. arabicum Dwarf 'Black PNW' (7) 70%

10 A. arabicum Dwarf 'Black Giant' (10) 100% -- very nice

Thanks Dain!

77.5% germination

Add 2 more Black Pearls to that tally...82.5% germination!

10 A. arabicum 'Black Pearl' (8) 80%

10 A. arabicum Dwarf 'Black RCN' (8) 80%

10 A. arabicum Dwarf 'Black PNW' (7) 70%

10 A. arabicum Dwarf 'Black Giant' (10) 100% -- very nice

Can't complain at that, almost a full house, good going trace :)

Hey congrats, Tracy. In about a year, you will be the key to identifying which of those things I have. I sowed 'Dwarf Black Giant', 'Black Pearl, Dwarf Black RCN' and 'Dwarf Black Petch Na Wang nearly three years ago but none of their labels survived. So I do not know which is which.

Pagan

Phil no kidding, wish they were all this good.

That's funny Pagan. I would expect the Black Pearl to be easy to identify amongst this group unless the Dwarf varieties did not come true. Pagan you have really good taste in seed selection ;) These will definitely be moved out of the tray sooner than usual (8 weeks maybe) since many more germinated than expected.

Tracy

Add 1 more Black Pearl to that tally...85% germination! They are all putting on their first set of leaves. They are loving the red room.

10 A. arabicum 'Black Pearl' (9) 90%

10 A. arabicum Dwarf 'Black RCN' (8) 80%

10 A. arabicum Dwarf 'Black PNW' (7) 70%

10 A. arabicum Dwarf 'Black Giant' (10) 100% -- very nice

Tracy

Love the germination rates added to the photos :)

Never give up on them, I had 17 / 18 come up in my original sowing (the ones that survived in the separate pot). I tried to gently dig around to get the un-germinated seed out of the soil mix but couldn't find it. Sure enough a month later it peeked through the soil.

Photo update, they are 4 weeks old today.

Tracy they are all looking fantastic. Really great germination rates. I feel like my seedlings are SOOOO slow to grow. But I guess when watching things you do not recognize the changes until you are gone a few days. LOL. Thanks for sharing the update.

UPDATE: Not all seedlings are created equally. I ended up stunting the whole tray of these while figuring out the distance on my LED. There are a few survivors but for the most of them they stopped growing completely. Not all is lost, I still have more seeds you see.

I am sowing 10 more of each cultivar today. The difference is that this time they will start out beneath the LED so they will not be shocked by the intensity of the light.

Tracy

How close were they?

Dain I started out about 15 inches above the seedlings, but they were directly beneath the LED where the light is most intense. They were germinated under a blue bulb and so exposing them to the LED was quite a shock. If they had been started under LED I don't think it would have stunted them to the degree where they stop growing leaves. I have a couple that made it that are finally starting to grow. The leaves turned a little brown and crispy. The ones that lost all of their leaves I tossed. Here are a couple of the survivors, note their marginal growth pattern. Nowhere near the size that they should be by now.

Tracy

How are the black arabicum doing now?

Nice thread I dug up. Updates on these, Tracy? Btw, I don't have any trouble growing my episcia out on the shelf but my humidity must be higher than yours.

Do you have to have a humidity dome on indoors..I have 70% humidity and have started some seeds last night..should I put a clear Tupperware on it maybe? Hmmmm anyone around still to help lol

With your humidity that high (like mine) you may not need to dome once they are up, but it's still a good idea until your adenium seeds have germinated and shed their seed caps. If the seed caps dry, they will stick and are hard to get off without making them wet again. I only keep my seeds trays covered until they are up and caps are off since my humidity is also high here in the Deep South.

sara, an alternative would be to plant seeds in soil-cut-with-perlite in a tupperware container, then slip the container into a zip bag, zip the bag shut, and place it somewhere warm, like on top of your water heater. seeds will start to sprout in 2-3 days, then you can bring in the light. soil should be moist but not sopping wet. you can also use the wet paper towel method to germinate your seeds.

Thank you so much patty,..I will most definitely take your advice (I don't know why I didn't get this in my notifications:-/ weird..I just decided to check up on it.. thank you for taking the time to reply, I see little hays coming up, thanks Roger!! and Bragu, thank you I'll definitely have to try it like that ..sounds like a great way to go if your in a pinch, I have a heating pad now witch I'm enjoying.. thank you both as it's so appreciated (your replies) also have some seedlings coming from arid lands, and more plants coming from out of Africa..yay I'll post pics on my own thread once they come in as I'll NEED advice lol (they will probably be here monday yay)

Tracy, I couldn't find this store on e-Bay. Maybe they don't sell anymore :-(

They have a website moe.

http://adeniumcenter.com