When you sow adenium seeds they don't always come true to what the parent plant is, and doubles and triples have an even smaller percentage of seeds that come true to type, so even if you buy a particular seeds for a certain flower there is only a small chance you will get it.

Sellers on ebay usually state on adverts that seeds don't always come true to type in case of instances like yourself.

Having said that there are dodgy sellers on ebay so I personally would go for people ls recommendations on great forums like this one :)

I am new to adenium so the pros will be along to prob put it better for you

Yeah when you buy plants if the seller has not flowered them they should state what form it is but again say they have not flowered it yet and it may not come true to type. Sellers may even sell the plant in bloom or take a recent photo of the bloom so the buyer can see what they are buying rather than buying blind as it were.

They will virtually never come true to their parents' traits. The different alleles (alternative forms of a single gene) involved in flower structure are probably not all of the dominant nature. You might be able to control flower colour (to some extent) but not the shape of the flowers. And remember, when dealing with sexual propagation (pollination) the gene segregation to the end product, the seed, is influenced by genetic recombination, a sort of "crossing-over" between like/homologous chromosomes (containing the genes). This will "shuffle" the genes slightly and produce traits different from the ones of the parents. This is the nature of the sexual way of reproduction or meiosis.

This is why grafting is so popular. You can retain specific flower traits.

Phil, haha. Sorry I got carried away. But genetics can be a lot more complicated. ;-)

All that stuff is way beyond me so will leave it well alone to you and the rest of the pro's lol. I'm happy to learn the basics and just grow both adenium seeds into fine specimens aswell as growing young adenium plants into sculptural beauty and whatever flowers I get if the conditions are right are a bonus :)

Phil, and that is okay. You don't need to know about genetics and molecular biology to grow Adeniums. ;-) But it helps to understand some fundamental things about heritability and plant traits.

Anyamanee from Succulent Park is very good, I've ordered seeds and plants from them.

Adenium Center as Tracy stated has a great selection and honest.

I've also ordered from Mr. Ko and Rinoa.

I placed an order with http://www.adeniumseeds.com/ who also has a very nice large selection of arabicums and received wonderful seeds and the plants seem to have developed into the described product.

Good luck! It is a lot of fun seeing all the nuances one gets from growing on seeds. It is VERY addicting.

If you want to have a "Plant/Tree" of Arabicum, rather than start from seed and be sure to get something very compact.

Rinoa has Arabicum x Golden Crown trees available and now even a Dwarf variant. This way atleast you get a tree similar to what you are wanting.

Rick

I might try one of her plants sometime, would have to enquire about postage mind as it could cost a small fortune to the UK lol

Phil, I believe the cost of shipping here is the same as to you. It is approx. $26 - $35 for 1-3 trees in U.S.f.

Definitely save a bit with a couple trees.

Rick

So Adobo, have you decided which seeds to order?

Tracy

So Adobowizzzy, I received my order today from Adeniumcenter, he gave me extra seeds which is a star in my book. I also bought some black RCN of the dwarf variety. Everything was neatly packed and labeled, paperwork in order.

I'm not sure if you are mistyping or if spell check is being your worst enemy but the correct term is Adenium obesum. I am constantly battling with spell check in my posts, assuming this is the same for you ;) The answer to your grafting question is yes, they can be crossed for grafting between A. arabicum and A. obesum.

Tracy

Ok, I will start a new post and document my germination rates.