Anyone have experience with hybrid-tankless water heaters?
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We have a tankless gas water heater from the new house--sell it?
Comments (2)My husband is interested in this if you still want to sell it. I know you asked for a suggested price, but could you email me please? My email address is ShalomABoles@aol.com Thank you, Shalom...See Moredoes anyone have experience with the seisco water heater?
Comments (1)Sorry, I don't know about the brand you mentioned, I just bought a Rinai, but I am happy with it. My only complaint is that my plumbers only installed a controller that goes up to 120 degrees and claims I don't need water hotter than that! Even though my diswasher must now heat the water itself! I had to pay an extra $100 to get the real master controller (which is still on backorder). Also whenever the power flickers (which is all the time in my town) the heater resets itself to 108 degrees....See MoreElectric tank or tankless water heater v. Propane tank or tankless
Comments (8)If you're really sure you want tankless (and you kinda seem to be), I'm not going to argue with you. I'll just say a couple of things and then I'll bow out. Disclaimer: I'm not an expert on these matters. They just interest me and I hope to be more energy independent in the future, so I read up on them. I always welcome corrections from knowledgeable folk. First point: IMO electric resistive heating of ANY kind basically just doesn't play nice with PV, off grid or on. The only time it really makes sense is when you're off grid and your system produces more energy during the day than you can store in your battery. This can also apply to some extent if you're intertied and your utility pays you wholesale or less when you sell your power, essentially penalizing you for conserving. Either way, dumping your excess PV energy into water heaters is one way to store it for later use. However, it should be obvious that to store that energy, you have to use traditional storage water heaters, not tankless. Second point: Peak demand matters. It matters to your electric utility, and it matters to your bill. You probably know more about CA rates than I do, but it appears to me that right now California is more into time of use (TOU) metering than peak demand metering. However, more and more utilities are adopting peak demand metering for residential customers (they've had it for business for ages). So even if you're not dealing with it now, it may well be in your future. Demand based metering watches your power (not just energy) usage. The higher it is, the more you pay for all your electricity. In one demand scheme, you pay a surcharge based on your peak power usage (in kilowatts), In another, the price they charge you for every kilowatt hour you use depends on your peak usage -- the higher your peak, even if it's only once in the month, the more you pay per kWh that month. Let me give you an example of the second scheme. Let's say your house's big energy hog right now is an electric range.. Most of the time, you just use one or two surface units at a time. So your peak demand is relatively low, and you pay (say) 14 cents per kWh most months. But when you cook Thanksgiving dinner, you have all the surface units going, plus the oven, and a microwave. On that one day, you have a much higher peak demand. Your utility takes note. And that month, you pay 20 cents per kWh for EVERY kWh you use all month. So even though that month's usage is only a little higher than usual, the final bill for the month is MUCH higher. Now imagine what could happen to your bill if you add an appliance that increases your peak demand every day of every month. Guess what: when it comes to peak demand, tankless electric water heaters are MONSTERS. Think about it. With its mild climate, California is a great place for heat pump storage water heaters. That's what I'd get if I were you. Not tankless, and definitely not electric tankless. And that's all I have to say about that....See MoreFeeding my 85 gallon tank water heater with a tankless water heater
Comments (16)First off let me say that is an insane amount of water, for a residential setting. Really insane for California where there is a shortage of the resource to begin with. It is an interesting idea though. I know nothing about this kind of setup. There are only two people in my home and we get along fine with 40 Gallons of water in a tank with plenty to spare. When the kids were here though we could see issues if everyone decided they wanted to shower at the same time as we do have 3 bathrooms. If I were going to attack this idea, I would put the tankless after tank. In this way (at least in theory) the tankless would only operate at full capacity once the water in the tank was exhausted? Or as the water began to cool the tankless would ramp up. That theory based on how hot the water is flowing into the tankless and whether or not the tankless would operate at a lower setting or not at all if hot water was already flowing through it. I don't know the answer to either one of those questions. As far as those rain shower heads, not a fan. I have a family member who has one, not the best shower experience I have had. To each his/her own though....See Moreuscpsycho
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