Need help with starting a new lawn from grass seeds (Till or No-Till)
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amith_singh23
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Planting grass after tilling existing lawn
Comments (12)You guys are great! Thanks for the replies. I just ran across this site, and am now addicted! This has been a year long process, and I have been wondering what the heck (and why the heck) I am doing every step of the way. For the past 4 years I have been doing everything I could think of to create an adequate yard. By adequate, I would settle for somewhat green. We are in the seattle area so this seems like it would be an easy task. Our yard had a pretty good slope to it, and I could not get water into the ground at all (tried multiple aerations, thatching, use of product to treat what I considered to be hydrophobic soil (very hard, yet powdery at times, and water would just bead up on it and roll off)). So finally I decided it was time for a retaining wall (primarily to level some of the yard), so the 150ft long by 4 ft high wall went up. That managed to bury a portion of the current yard. As the dump trucks were driving across the yard to dump fill dirt, they didn't even leave impressions, so that led me to think that the ground needed loosened up some way. That is what led me down the road of incorporating some better soil and tilling in. The fact that I was going to till led me to the point of "might as well install a sprinkler system while I am at it", so, that is on the agenda before throwing the seed down. The yard is extremely high traffic by the neighborhood kids. All day football or baseball games is pretty typical. That is what led to trying to level some of the yard. We have a large yard, and love the fact that it can bring the kids together. My goal is a green yard that does not turn to dried out straw in the summer. Now of course, I look at pictures of the yard before I started everything and think, hmm, that wasn't so bad! Below are some pics from last summer that might give you a better idea of what I am working with. Bottom line is that I have had a great time working out there (yes, frustrating at times), and have realized I have a love for yard/gardens, and can't wait to learn more and more (thus the new addiction to this site.) Here is a link that might be useful: Yard Pictures...See MoreTilling/Slit Seeding - Starting from Scratch
Comments (3)if you till it, you will have to till it so many times you will wish you never started. what happens is the tilled dirt settles unevenly and leaves it real bumpy. you can roll it after tilling to compact it back down, but then that defeats the purpose! how big an area you talking about here? if it is a few hundred up to maybe 10,000 sq ft i would till it and work in soil amendments at the same time. (i know, i just said tilling is bad but this is what I would do) bigger than that i just cut down the existing dead stuff as low as i could and overseed....See MoreTilling the Glacial Till, un-till . . .
Comments (21)It isn't so bad in Stanley this morning altho', I guess 35o was the low and the WS says it will be cooler the next 2 days. The thermometer didn't make it above 55o here yesterday and there is rain with 25mph gusts this morning. I just went outside to see if there was snow falling with the rain but, no, it is just larger drops blowing off the trees . . . Tomorrow is summer in Caribou County just like up here for us, mla2ofus. I am always hoping for more warmth in May and June but it didn't happen again this year. I bet your elevation is pretty high but my early planting of peas were looking okay when I put another set of strings on them this week. The greens should soldier thru. The eggplant and peppers must think that this is pure torture. . . . One hoop house is still up but the construction-grade film won't be able to take it much longer. About 3 months is all I can expect from it and, that's okay. Here is an idea, think about 2 hoop houses instead of one for that much ground. Or, build it out of something a little stouter than mine. Maybe not the film but the frame. I have 1/2" pvc pipe for one and 3/4" pipe for the other. One has no frame on the ground but both have framed windows and doors. They are both really protected from the wind by fences and surrounding buildings. The only real problems I've had is with the weight of late snow storms. The cool-season plants have been fine in the open garden for the last few weeks. It is always great to get some of those things started early in the hoop house. It is the warm-season plants that suffer year after year from the late-spring wind and cold. But, that's all going to change after tomorrow! Right?! Steve...See MoreHelp! Laid Manure over lawn but not sure how long till is disolves...
Comments (10)Hopefully you'll remember this event as a lesson in what not to do. Manure should never be used in the garden until it has been completely composted. At that point it is no longer manure and is called compost or composted manure. There is a lot to learn about compost, but not on this forum. If you want to speed up the breakdown of the manure (i.e. the stench) get some molasses at your local feed store or garden nursery and spray it at a rate of 3 ounces per 1,000 square feet. The sugar in the molasses will encourage the soil bacteria to populate and decompose the manure much faster. It can go on for weeks (and weeks) if you don't do anything. By the way it is very easy to smother bermuda with compost or manure. I've seen it set back an entire growing season with compost. Bermuda seed likes hot soil. Even in Phoenix it is not quite ready to seed. I say this to lower your expectations for the seed you put down. Had you waited until mid May I would expect it to germinate to 80% by early June. But if you put it down in April, I would still expect to not get 80% until early June. That's just the way bermuda seed works. You did a lot of extra things that will negatively affect your end product. If you end up reseeding, please ask here first before you do ANYTHING....See Moreamith_singh23
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