Help with sink run layout--stages 45
Cabinets are ordered and should be coming in soon. So this layout is set, except that I need to decide which way to place my stages 45 sink and I could still switch the dishwasher + 12 inch pullout with the 36 inch drawer stack. Please no comments on the rest of the layout.
The opening between the dishwasher + 12 inch pullout and the 36 inch drawer stack on the range run is an exterior door. The opening on the other end of the sink run goes to our small breakfast nook.
I will have two faucets, one on each end of the stages sink. My trash and recycling will be on a pullout under the sink. A small laundry basket for rags and such and my compost bin will be on the other side under the sink.
The dishwasher where it is above is in my prep space. I had initially placed it on the other side of the sink, but got negative feedback here because it would block the doorway to the breakfast nook. The breakfast nook is used as an art area for the kids so I am seldom serving food in there. Neither position is ideal, but which do you think is better?
And I need to decide which way to orient the stages sink. The trash and recycling pull outs will go underneath the shelf, I think, because there will be less interference with the drain/pipes/garbage disposal on that side. I am getting two faucets because I hope that the kids and dh will be able to use one to wash hands or get drinks while I continue prep, etc at the sink. (If you think I should train my kids and dh to wash their hands and get their water to drink elsewhere, please don't say it here. It won't change or help anything.)
Do I want the kids to use the faucet over the shelf or over the deep end? And do I want them to use the faucet closers to the side door (washing hands as they come inside) or on the side towards the breakfast nook (more out of the prep zone)?
Thank you for any thoughts on how to best layout the sink run!
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Comments (11)I was hoping scrappy would join the conversation. I just snapped a pic of mine and you can see it does not splash with the faucet on regular flow. I believe you need to choose the faucets carefully to fit your use, especially if wall mounted. One thing I'd like to mention though is that I would not want to give up the shelf to hand washing. That is my favorite prep area. As I've used my sink for six months now, I've developed patterns; I use the right 3/4's for prep and the area to the left of the drain for dirty/transitional stuff and hand washing. Hand washing is a main reason I went with the Kohler. My DH is not trainable regarding this and it's one of the reasons we chose the stages. I did consider this in the planning stage and have my fridge to the right of the landing counter, the trash and recycle directly below the center of the sink and DW to the left. We considered two faucets but ultimately went with one Kohler Karbon. It reaches all corners and i love that I do not have to hold it. I love it as much as my sink. The shelf is very handy during prep. That's where I open packages, put my prep scraps, actually it changes jobs continually and I have to say it is the most active part of my sink and I would not want hand washing there. I also place my small dish drainer there for cleanup. This is my typical setup except I usually use small colanders on the grate, then slide them under my cutting boards to keep the left clear for hand washing. In your case, I would consider a wall mount Karbon on the shelf side and the Hi-rise on the left....See MoreKohler 45 sink question
Comments (26)Mrs Pete, I designed the cabinets holding the sink to be 36 + 15 inches but since Dutchwood is full custom they combined the cabinets to reduce wasted space and to allow the wide 45 inch toekick drawer underneath. That perfectly fits the Kohler accessories and a few extra cutting boards. The divider between the "sink base" and the drawer stack is exactly where the wall would have been between the 36+15 inch cabinets. I found this picture in my pinterest files of someone who did 36' + 12 " for their Stages 45 sink. The Ikeafans website link no longer works so I will post it here with the words that I copied out of the post. As bbtrix said, you can use almost any width drawer stack under the shallow side of the sink. I agree with bbtrix that the center of the sink is the perfect place for the trash. It allows two cooks, one on each side of the sink, or coming from elsewhere in the kitchen to use the trash and the trash drawer is usually open only about 10 inches the whole time we are prepping, since we do not need to access the recycle portion in the back during prepping. Previously, I had a trash mounted on a swing out door and that could not be left open while working at the sink so it was a royal PITA for two cooks or even one cook. I actually thought the trash cans were too large at first since I like smaller grocery bags so that the bags are replaced before they get stinky. I solved this by stashing my spare grocery bags under the current trash and the spare paper bags in front of the recycle trash.The front plastic can is about 17 tall x 14 wide x 10 deep at the top....See MoreAnother Kohler Stages 45 Question...
Comments (8)I just posted a question about the Kohler 45 . . . so I've been thinking on this subject lately. While yours is a question with loads of wiggle room for personal choices, I have several thoughts on your proposal: This is a sink you buy because you want it to serve you well as you prep food. Yet you're talking about eliminating ALL your adjacent storage for prep items (knives, vegetable peelers, hamburger patty press, and the hundred other items you'd use in prepping food). And you're eliminating your trash can, which is pretty essential for a prep area. In exchange, you're getting a second dishwasher. Essentially what you're doing is setting up your island as a clean-up area . . . but you're filling it with a very expensive prep sink, when a plain old large sink would serve just as well for what you're describing. In conclusion, I'd ask this question: What is the purpose of this area? I think you need to clarify that, and then you'll be prepared to move forward. This post was edited by MrsPete on Wed, Jan 7, 15 at 19:30...See MoreShould I give up the Kohler Stages 45 for a better kitchen layout?
Comments (24)I have heard that sink mentioned many times on this board but I actually looked at a YouTube video on it just now. No wonder you want it Mrs. Pete! i don't have much to add except to say that my kitchen in my house before this house had a setup a lot like your new house with the peninsula. I loved that kitchen. The corner between the sink and the dw was accessed from the other side of the peninsula. I kept linens, etc. there. the only thing between my sink and my dishwasher was a single trash pullout (same side as dw) whereas yours is right next to the corner. Does that make sense? It worked out very well. I stood to the left of my dw, in front of my sink and filled or emptied my dw and most of my dishes went right into uppers above on the wall to the right of my sink. I don't think you can have it so close to the corner, but that single trash pullout cabinet I had wasn't very big. It worked out well. frankly, it was a better setup than what I have now with my big sink and dw on my island as far as convenience. It sounds like you are worried about not having enough kitchen drawers if you go with this sink. if I remember right you have a large pantry that you could perhaps customize for some of your needs? I have pegboard that I use to hang a lot of my pots and pans. Will you have plenty of uppers?...See More
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