thanx for the great responses! all of those plant suggestions sound great - I'm definitely going to look into them! Bunnygurl - I'm getting interested in caudiciforms too, mostly just because I love my desert rose - I don't have any others, but since I love my adult one so much I also planted some seeds, they are about 3 weeks old, here's a pic: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=w7emwj&s=5 and http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=21b96s6&s=5 do you have any suggestions for other cooperative caudiciforms like the adenium? thanx for the welcome drvongirl! A bird of paradise sounds very interesting, I'm def gunna look into it - I've never seen a full plant, only the cut flowers they sell in supermarkets! here is a pic of my rubber tree: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2wgwymt&s=5 (sorry it's blurry, I hadta take it with my phone) it used to have another huge arm that snaked out sideways and up from it, but the movers cracked it, so my dad decided to cut it off cleanly and give it to his old office mates to root and keep because they said they would miss the tree, lol. thanks again to everyone for their suggestions!

Try these links. I found them under google. thee appears o be many different patterns. http://www.maggiescrochet.com/pages/Afghans/PA630_Angel_%20Afghan_pattern_main.htm www.crochetkim.com/patterns/angelafghan.html www.fortunecity.com/victorian/ jacobean/141/AngelPineappleAfghan.html Just do a Google search. Hope this helps ivamae

look over on the seed exchange forum. heres some links to the posts there: adopt a newbie newbie seed project

That's the best part about using the turface. It's almost like cat litter in regards to its change of color from wet to damp to dry. When I initially stuck the cuttings, I loaded the first cup with turface I had just rinsed to reduce the dust particles. Therefore it was damp when stuck. After inserting the dusted cutting, topping with another upside down cup (with hole cut in bottom to slide over stem), I then poured additional turface thru the top hole. Then I watered just until saturated. Lastly, I cut slits in the bottom cup until I was sure it was adequately draining. Other than sticking them in a shaded location and adding water anytime I saw the turface drying out... that was it! With these, just having them next to other plants that were regularly watered on the porch was sufficient. The hole let in just enough, but not too much!