Ben, sorry, it was his Rubra post but I had forgotten you commented on it. No, I wished I had a cutting of Rubra.

I liked the pink flowers that were blooming on this jade called, 'pink beauty' and bought some cuttings. I didn't think anything about it until his post and thought they might be the same but I don't think so.

Ben, I got a variegated Blue Bird from Australia a few weeks ago but not as big and nice as yours.

Your variegated Gollum (6th photo) is stunning.

I didn't know you were also collecting non-variegated jades. There is an unusual C. ovata 'Green Bird' (a reversion of Gollum with giant leaves) for sale at Kuentz. May be you don't have that one.

Ben, you are indeed a Jade Master. How many different varieties do you possess? Do you ever think there are some variegated varieties that have too subtle differences to be given a new name?

I have a recent photo on my Jades on Sunday Morning thread of what was given to me as 'Rubra' from someone that worked at Huntington Gardens, which you said is 'Pink Beauty'. It is the first photo on the thread...

Christopher

I thought jade 'Rubra' was so-called because of the colour of the leaves. Some posts seem to be talking about the colour of flowers.

Ben, how many years did it take the Gollum to get that size?

Hi,

Laurent, so it was you who baught the other Blue Bird Variegata. Is it this plant?

Yes i also read about the new cultivar "Green Bird" in a french forum. I ordered it at Kuents but i did not get it yet ... it should have the biggist leaves of all ovatas ...

here a pic of "Green Bird" from the french forum in comparison to other jades (Green Bird is on the upper left side)

Camellia, i baught my Gollum Variegata in 2010 from Japan but it already was relatively big at this time. Maybe it has doupled in size since that time ...

Christopher, yes you are right it is always the question when a slight variation is indeed a new cultivar? Particulary for variegated forms it is often hard to tell as every leaf could look different. In my opinion the only way to decide that is to grow them side by side for some years and get experience.

Did you get your Rubra and Waves from Norma?

Marguerite, I think with Rubra it will be the same ... one has to grow Rubra and Pink Beauty side by side to see if they are distinct cultivars. Also Pink Beauty gets very red leaves (but see the other thread were I posted a pic).

Regards,

Ben

Ben, I agree about what you said about new cultivars. Yes, I was sent cuttings of my Rubra and Waves a few years back. The Waves took longer to get established. but at the moment is putting out a new branch and new leaves...Here it is now.

Christopher

Christopher, thanks for the progress pics. Your Waves is really beautifull and distinct ...

Christopher, Great looking plants! Love them! I remember reading a post regarding Norma's generosity. I wonder how the other owners' plants are doing.

Are these similar to the Green Bird? I was out of town today and saw these at the nursery.

Christopher, what beautiful plants. Are Rubra and Waves similar in colour, or is that the camera?

Camellia, is that a variegated jade to the right of the one you think might be like Green Bird?

Marguerite, I don't know what it is. It might be. I was just surprised at all the HUGE leaves their jades had at this place. I have not seen a hobbit and blue bird with such HUGE leaves. Or this jade with the pointed tips.

Very nice new acquisitions, Ben!

Josh

Ben, yes it's the plant I have bought.

Camilla, I don't think 'Green Bird' is already available in the USA. I post a link to a very interesting conversation (in french) about this plant and another reversion (not yet for sale). If you can't get a good translation with Google I will try to translate the parts you don't understand, but my english is not very good : http://forum.crassulaceae.ch/viewtopic.php?id=3334

Laurent

Laurent, Thank You! That was an interesting read. Although, I had read a post where Josh was told the 'Red Horn' leaf would revert, I went ahead and potted the leaf up that had torn off the plant. It has produced some plantlets. I will grow those and see what happens.

Hi,

it seems, that many of us are bidding the same plants on ebay :-) Then the final price can be sometimes interesting.

By the way, Ben, I also bought 2 weeks ago the Pink Beauty from Italy :-)

Martin

Camellia, there are different forms of Gollum, with different leaf sizes. My Gollum has very large leaves, some three inches long. The Green Bird has at least SOME if not all arborescens in it, looking at the leaf. More arborescens than ovata, anyway.

Marguerite, the Waves gets that way because of my window. It is not the camera.

Christopher

Hi !

All the leaves of my cutting have burnt in the sun (I had to remove them). Now it's rooted and producing very colorful leaves. It will look beautiful soon. I will post new photos ;)

The cutting pictured by the seller :

Same plant, 2 months later :

Thanks for posting the pics, Laurent. The plant looks even more colorfull as before! Mine is still waiting to get outside!

Thank you Ben. Yes, it's much more colorful.

It's not visible on the photo but the next pair of leaves seems to be more variegated.

Your plants are still inside ? Freezing night temperatures or too much rain ?

Yes all my plants are still inside. Last year I lost some of my jades due to rotting and so this year i want to be on the safe site. The nights sometimes are still quite cold here, with temperatures just above freezing. Additionally there was lots of rain in the last days ... so a combination not that perfect. I hope in one ore two weeks i can bring out all my plants out to the balcony.

Ben

Hi,

I have received from Australia also this plant. Was not so variegated when it came, just a few leafs. I had to cut all the non-variegated leafs and stems (most of them were absolutelly without any variegation, like usual Blue Bird), I hope new growing will be with more variegation.

Martin

this after cutting

Good luck with your plant Martin.

Yes, good luck indeed. What happened with the other C. arborescens variegata, that I was sure was but no-one else agreed, Martin?

Thanks for lucky wishing.

Well, accrording also Ben it can be Crassula oavata Variegata, but with better composition of variegation. I am not sure but we will see by growing.

Left side jade form Australia, right Crassula ovata variegata from USA

Martin

Martin, that new leaf on the plant on the left looks very variegated C. arborescens. I persist :)

Doesn't look like the characteristic of a variegated C. arborescens but time will tell.

I agree with Ben. There can be much variation in the variegation of ovata variegata.

Christopher.

The U.S-white-variegated on the right is beautiful. I wonder if it burns in the summer sun or if it reduces its variegation in order to survive.

Laurent, that white one burns terribly for me! Mine recently was fried, but now the new growth is coming in and will be acclimated to the strong sunlight. One of the qualities of this variety is that it holds its color very well without turning green during the Winter.

Josh

Thank you very much Josh.

Will it be acclimated enough to tolerate full sun in july and august or will you move it to a shadier place ?

What cultivar turns green in winter ?

Hi, Laurent! If it burns in high Summer, I will move it for sure.

There are many variegates that turn green during the Winter. Also, 'Hummel's Sunset' and 'Red Horn Tree.'

Josh

Do you keep H. Sunset and Red H. Tree indoors in winter ?

When I used to grow those 2 outdoors thery were colorful in winter and green in summer. But when I tried to grow them indoors they were permanently green.

I have to bring all my plants indoors for the Winter...it is too cold here.

Just noticed that my 'Red Horn Tree' is burned, so I've moved it into some shade. I think it will lose the top leaves and have to re-grow all new leaves now.

Josh

Looking Good! I love the spots, too.

Wow! That is just gorgeous, Laurent.

-Erica

Nice one Laurent! Goes well with the C. capitella just behind it, I have that one also.

Andy_e, this is a rare seasonaly variegated form of C. capitella 'Pagoda Village', not the normal one. The new leaves appear albino-white at the end of the winter, then they turn bright pink in spring. It's the end of the "variegation season" now. Then it's green in summer and fall.

Laurent
You have such beautiful plants, fantastic coloration and they seem to be very healthy.
Thank you for sharing...looking forward to more.
Rina

How is everyone's variegated Bluebird coming along?

All these plants are stunning. I can't get enough of everyone's pictures.

Hi all,

mine continues to grow with nice variegation. But really slow grower.

Martin

Martin

as all arborescens. The main thing - is growing.

Here some quick pics of my variegated arborescens plants ...

Ben

Nice, nice. But your Variegata from Australia looks already quite big one..

Hi Ben!
Beautiful Jades!
I seem new arborescens variegata will grow faster than first. So its leaves contain more chlorophylls. But it will more chimeric because of this. As Solana against Trikolor.
And I see little part of the Compact variegata. How does it grow? Is it as Solana? Or is it that Solana from me?

Oksana.

Hi I have finally taken a photo, sorry it's dark (end of the day).

I copy/paste my former comment. I had to delete it because I couldn't add the photo :

Camellia, my variegated Blue Bird is not growing anymore, it seems dormant and looks exactly the same.

We had an exceptionnal heat wave for 2 weeks with temps over +35°c
and some plants didn't like it (the less rooted ones, the smallest ones
and/or the more variegated ones).

As Legolas and variegated Gollum keep growing (very slowly), I
conclude that my variegated Blue Bird is not rooted enough to face the
heat.
It should grow again with the first rains of september or october.

Thank you for the update! They all look great!

M, I think Ben had a nice size cutting to begin with based on the pics.

All are insanely gorgeous! Love seeing them bask in the sun, as if there's an internal flame.

Hi,

yes it is true I already started with somewhat bigger cuttings.

Oksana, the other variegated plant in the upper right of the first picture is the Solana that I got from you. All your plants and also the campact variegata doing fine an grow little by little. I will make some pics when I have time.

Another intersting thing is that your monstorse "Dragon" is getting a gollum-like leaf now.

Ben