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Comments (15)Cupshaped, We lived just south of Daytona for over 20 years. We hadn't discovered OGRs, but gave up on the HTs that were sold at garden centers because they were too much work--the constant spraying required was a nightmare. Especially in the heat of summer, when you'd come in needing a blood transfusion from all the mosquito bites. We were on a barrier island, so the "soil" was almost pure sand with a thin layer of leaf litter and pine straw on top. Water & nutrients ran right through it. We found gardening with Florida natives to be a very satisfying, enviromentally friendly way to go. If you want a Florida native that will attract butterflies, get a firebush (Hamelia patens). Wonderful red-orange tube-shaped flowers are great nectar sources for most butterflies, and hummingbirds like them, too. Being a native, it should perform well--there may be a little freeze damage once in a while in Daytona, but it's good to whack the bushes back once in a while, anyway. Another great Florida native for butterflies is Wild Coffee (Psychotria nervosa). Makes a beautiful rounded bush with shiny leaves, small white flowers, and red berries. Zebra longwing butterflies LOVE it. Citrus trees act as larval food for Eastern Swallowtails (the caterpillars look like bird poop, and put out scary red antennae-type things when alarmed, but the butterflies are GORGEOUS.) The caterpillars don't eat that much, so just ignore the few chewed on leaves and wait for them to emerge in all their flying glory. And you can eat the citrus, too. Passionflower vines are larval food for zebra longwings, and have great flowers. Muhly grass is a lovely ornamental native grass that has pinkish blooms. And some of the spartina grasses are also great native ornamentals. Green Images in Christmas, Florida is a WONDERFUL native plant nursery that's not too far from Daytona. Worth a trip over there, and they should have a bunch of natives that will perform well and bring in the butterflies. Depending on your friends' soil, amendments can be tricky. If they're in a real sandy area, the soil is so coarse that it has tons of air & oxygen in it, and organics burn up so fast that you almost can't add them quickly enough to make a difference. Other places are muck (basically swamp bottom) and have much richer soil. The Florida Native Plant Society is a wonderful organization and a great source of information if you want to "go native". Natives are so much easier to grow, provide food and cover for birds and butterflies, and low maintenance to boot. Water rationing is becoming pretty common in Florida, and planting things that will deal with normal rainfall is a way to have a beautiful garden in spite of water restrictions....See MoreHyde Hall in Florida ?
Comments (8)Gracin, my Hyde Hall is still in the 1-gallon pot - shame on me for procrastinating. A couple of days ago I noticed his first flower but it had been laying on the gravel so was messed up, but the color was pretty. By comparison St Swithuns has been nestled in the ground since February or so and hasn't bloomed yet. Hyde Hall is also sprouting side shoots from his 3' cane that is laying horizontal. I will say that he is healthy and has leaves. That's more than I can say for Mary Rose, but she's not going anywhere. All of your roses sound wonderful. I've been wanting to get Sophie's Rose. Heard she was good in Florida. And Tradescent is also a temptation. Maybe in my next garden redo. Big ha-ha there! The only thing different about Pam's garden might be that she has more nights with cold temps than me which I guess some Austins might appreciate. But maybe you're up near her so no difference. My Mrs B R Cant is on Fort from Nelson's, and I assume she has the virus but I have never seen any adverse effects or even the yellow pattern on her leaves since she was a baby. All the best to you and your babies. Sherry Here is a link that might be useful: If only sweat were irrigation......See MoreNewbie Rosarian - Intro with lots of Florida Rose Photos
Comments (14)I'm so glad that you're turning out (I've seen your other post) to be an avid poster. Keep more pictures coming!!! Your roses are heavenly. Your Love and Peace really stands out. Gorgeous!!! I adore my Paradise. Don't you just love that rose!? It's one of my more hardy roses growing in pots. Your dog is precious too!! What a sweetie!! Is that a breed - red nose? Just curious. What a stunner! Thank you so much for bringing your rose beauty into our lives!! Carol...See More(Some) Good Luck With Disease Resistant Roses In South Florida
Comments (29)You have to be more specific than just "OGR" to find the ones which will do well in Florida. Teas, Chinas, Noisettes, and Tea-Noisettes are just four types of OGRs. 'Louise Odier' is a Bourbon, and while an OGR, probably isn't suitable for Florida. 'The Fairy' is a Polyantha, and with that Multiflora background probably isn't suited to alkaline soils found in much of Florida. Meanwhile, four you mentioned as doing well -- 'Duchesse de Brabant', 'Duquesa', 'Mrs. B. R. Cant', and "Spice" -- are Teas, and Teas thrive in areas with little or no Winter. I have a bunch of Chinas and Teas here in NJ, and they are rarely without bloom through the growing season, but get hit hard by Winters here. Check out Rose Petals Nursery or Angel Gardens -- two Florida rose nurseries -- and search under the Teas, Chinas, Noisettes, and Tea-Noisettes. These types do very well in warm climates, usually blooming all year. Other types of OGRs -- such as Bourbons, Hybrid Perpetuals, Portlands, or the once-blooming types -- likely won't do well for you, though there may be random exceptions. :-) ~Christopher...See Moreingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
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