SOFL ,

Thanks for the list ! I planted 10 new roses on Fortuniana this month and still looking for more ! Like you I am intrested in healthy & beautiful roses . I am a newbie in central FL . The only clean roses that I never spray are HTs st.Patrick and Granada .

Memorial Dy ,Mr.Lincon, Gold medal ,Fragrant Cloud are also good in my garden although they did get a bit of black spot after the rainy season.

Perfect Moment and Double Delight are the worst for BS although I am keeping them for their blooms .

I shovel pruned Chicago peace and perfume Delight despite their beautiful blooms because their BS was so ugly ,I could not stand it .

All other roses are too new to preview .

Hi Denise. Right now, I have a lot of leafless wonders in my yard. Hurricane Mathew followed by the extreme high tides may take a toll on my garden. One of my best performers is Outta the Blue. I can't believe that you shoveled prune Regatta. It is a really good work horse for me as well and its form looks good.... not sure why yours would not do as well... maybe just a bad bush. I am thinking of getting another one.... I also have the McCartney Rose that does very well, as well as Sugar Moon that you recommended to me. My Pink Travitata that you gave me is doing pretty good. IT is still small, but with each flush it is doing better and better. It is disease resistant though and still has his leaves... yeah. I have two Loves. One is doing great and the other one drops his leaves after every flush.... I don't get that at all.

Also Earth Angel (on its own roots)

I think this forum is going to start hearing a lot more from us Floridians, lol. Our Spring has finally arrived.

I find it interesting to see how much we share experiences and opinions on roses. I can't agree with Regatta. It has proven itself very rigorous and the bloom form is next to florist perfect in the cooler temps. Missing from emphasis for positive attributes is Belinda's Dream. I have that thing all over my yard. It's one of those that you forget about and are slapped with its existence when it flushes like no other rose bush in the yard. I have a list of loves and hates, but I'm currently assessing my yard for "Florida Winter" survivors. So far I lost ALL of my Fragrant Clouds. As a matter of fact, all of my oranges, with the exception of just a four varieties, died.

BRB after the inventory and weed pulling.

Thanks for sharing! You must have a very beautiful garden with all those roses!!

My moonstone performs extremely well. No spray needed at all.

There are many disease resistant trails in recently years and I found roses with those labels do perform better.

Dang. I'm starting to regret pulling out my Regatta. I really should have given it more time. I was very hasty with it. Maybe I'll give it another try.

I too have tried fragrant cloud multiple times and its never lasted more than a year. I'm so sad too because its really one of the most beautiful and fragrant roses ever. Also my Gold Medal, that I looked for, for so long, also died this summer (or as you call it, this "Florida Winter"). I lost a lot this year, but I think it had to do with planting them too late in the season. I'm focusing on disease resistant ones now and some have been very nice, but others *Summer Romance* have been a total bust.

If you haven't yet removed SR, you might want to try pruning her to encourage blooms. A couple of people that had good bloom mentioned they did that, and Chris from Newflora also suggested it. I've gotten a few blooms on my Chamblee plants this year, but plant to prune her next Spring and see if I can get her going better and not just at the tips. I adore her flowers and scent so I'm persevering. Plus, I think she may need more than one season. I don't know how long you've grown yours. She is remarkably disease-free.

Yes, I actually just did that. It was very tall so I cut it back by about 2/3rds. Its already leafing out again. I'm hoping now in the cooler weather it will start giving me some blooms. I haven't given up on it yet.

Thank you for posting this! It's so helpful. I planted Beverly deep and I think she is sprouting some roots of her own. My husband weed whacked Moonlight Magic so I moved it and planted it deep too. Hopefully it roots. I plant in moving First Crush. It hates its current location.

Then I have my mini's. I just got them in the ground.. Plus a few more. They are recovering. I hope to have something worth taking pictures of soon.

I have CL. America on the NW corner the house. So far it is looooving it. It finally put in some new growth and has three buds. It's related to Fragrant Cloud, right, I'm thinking parent but possibly its seedling? It makes me nervous reading that FC was a bust for you. I hope whatever the issue isn't does t run in the family.

I have decided on Belinda's Dream for a short hedge on the front of the house. We have to remove a huge tree first though.

I also need need a rose bush for the N-NW side of the house under a big window. It gets a little sun in late afternoon. I'm actually thinking of planting a pink double KO there because it won't get much sun.

Grace! Moonstone's foliage and bloom is beautiful!

Happy Halloween Everyone!

Here is a list of those dearly departed for 2016...thus far...

Cherry Parfait, Distant Drums, Colorific, Granada, Twilight Zone, Voluptuous, Fragrant Cloud, Carry Grant, Crescendo, Strike it Rich, Moonstone, Medallion, Crowd Pleaser, Pristine, Neptune, Honor, Barbara Streisand, Fragrant Plum Alex's Red Double Delight, Tournaments of Roses, Let Freedom Ring, Valencia, Tahitian Sunset, Sheila's Perfume, Mayor John Land, Rio Samba, Princess De Monaco, Marilyn Monroe, St Patrick.

Although this seems tragic, it is a great improvement over years past.

Wow. I lost a lot of the same varieties that you did. I lost Cherry Parfait, Distant Drums, Colorific (these two died when i tried moving them), Crescendo, Moonstone, Medallion, Sheila's perfume and St. Patrick.

oh and Fragrant Cloud (2 of them)

Of those you mentioned, I bought multiples and some did survive. Cherry Parfait lives on through 4 plants, Colorific has one, Cresendo has one, Moonstone has five, and St. Patrick has two. I'm done with Sheila's Perfume and I'm about to give up on Fragrant Cloud, but it has to be the heaviest scented rose I've ever smelled. I'm going to give Distant Drums one more chance because of the unique coloration, but it won't be getting another chance.

I already ordered many of the replacements through Pops (you know he has the best price on roses, lol).

What are you planning on replacement/pitching?

I know this area leans to moderns, but from all I've heard and read, the old Teas, Chinas, Noisettes, and Tea-Noisettes seem to love Florida. They will get big, though, so if you're looking for easier-care shrubby or climbing roses, you may wish to consider them.

:-)

~Christopher

I plan on replacing Moonstone and Cresendo (just beautiful form), I'd like to give St. Patrick another try and I too will be replacing Distant Drums. I dont think it got a fair chance. I'd like to replace Cherry Parfait too. I'm giving up on Fragrant Cloud. Its so stunning but I never got good blooms from it (bullheaded blooms) and its the 3rd one that dies on me. I'd like to give Regatta another try after you and Sharon said it performed well for you. When is Pops getting his roses in?

Aqua Eyes, I do keep hearing that about Fl, but I haven't found too many OGR's that I like. I do love Duchess De Brabant and I just got Duquesa which is bread from her that is said to do well. I have the Fairy (does OK), Mrs. BR Cant does very well, Souv. De La Malmason has not thrived but has survived. Louise Oldier is happy but I'm not wild about its somewhat skimpy sized blooms. I'm also growing Spice which is still small. But so far, with the exception of Duchess, non have really blown me away.

However, I've had better luck with Austins than with OGR's. Evelyn, Scepter D'isle, Heritage (even on its own roots), Pat Austin and Charlotte are some of my best performers. Spirit Of Freedom, The Dark Lady, Sophie's Rose and Litchfield Angel are new to me this year but all look very promising. Eglantyne and Gentle Hermione have also done well as has Ambridge Rose. I'm currently trying a few new OGR's Maggie, Boule de Niege and Old Town Novato. They've stayed small still, but maybe they'll pop now that the weather has cooled. Earth Angel by Kordes has also been a good one and The Faun is LOVELY. Easy Does It is a superb rose for me too, it out performs all of my others. I just got Carefree Beauty and I'm hoping it does as well as Easy Does It.

You have to be more specific than just "OGR" to find the ones which
will do well in Florida. Teas, Chinas, Noisettes, and Tea-Noisettes are
just four types of OGRs. 'Louise Odier' is a Bourbon, and while an OGR,
probably isn't suitable for Florida. 'The Fairy' is a Polyantha, and
with that Multiflora background probably isn't suited to alkaline soils
found in much of Florida. Meanwhile, four you mentioned as doing well --
'Duchesse de Brabant', 'Duquesa', 'Mrs. B. R. Cant', and "Spice" -- are
Teas, and Teas thrive in areas with little or no Winter. I have a bunch of Chinas and Teas here in NJ, and they are rarely without bloom through the growing season, but get hit hard by Winters here. Check out Rose Petals Nursery or Angel Gardens
-- two Florida rose nurseries -- and search under the Teas, Chinas,
Noisettes, and Tea-Noisettes. These types do very well in warm climates,
usually blooming all year. Other types of OGRs -- such as Bourbons,
Hybrid Perpetuals, Portlands, or the once-blooming types -- likely won't
do well for you, though there may be random exceptions.

:-)

~Christopher

Sultry, do you have your Austins on Dr. H? Own root or on Fortuniana? In pots or in the ground?

Some are on own root and some on Doc Huey. Most are in large pots. I would love to get them all on fort but its kinda expensive. I can just see what monsters they would be if they were on fort. they are already huge.

SoFL Rose ,

Can you please recommend a healthy compact rose ? 2x2 or 2x3 in front of a window ,dont want to block the view .morning sun only . I was thinking about sharifa Asma but I am afraid it might get big on Fortuniana . Ebb Tide is another choice but my husband said it looks like a flower not a rose.

Thanks a lot SoFL rose ! I will search up all these roses .No ,I never tried the sunrosa or the drift collections.

I saw Sunrosa at a local nursery. I almost picked it up but had never heard of it before I saw it. Yours is beautiful. I'm glad to hear it and the Drift roses do well here.

Hi. Florida zone 9b here. I just wanted to give this thread a bump to see if anyone has any updated thoughts or recommendations for disease resistant roses that might do well here.