I have these Astilbe seeds and other seeds on my trade list. At this time I would love seeds on my want list or any other long blooming perennials I didn't know I could live without :D Please let me know if you want to trade! Thanks :) Daisy

The charts are at http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/daylilies.32588 Although I got them there, my computer is having trouble accessing the charts this evening. Each chart has a different link. I had found them elsewhere recently , but have no idea what the site was. If you can't get them on the listed site, send me an e-mail through the Garden Web system and I will send them to you. Larry

Yeah it's true.They CAN'T see red light so he's probably fine.

Being in Texas, I would imagine MOST roses in your desired color would thrive in less than 8 hours of sun. That level of direct sun would be very appropriate in New York, Oregon, Washington, etc. Where UV and heat are intense, significantly less than 8 hours of direct sun are preferable for the vast majority of roses. When "full sun" was written and became part of the repeated "rose knowledge", the major authors were British, writing about conditions in British gardens. Vastly different from what a huge section of this country endures.